Would Jordan have ever beat those guys without Scottie?

If Jordan played now, in a league where its usually whoever has the most top 15 type players wins the title, I think he would consider it.

No.

I agree with you about Barkley, but I see no reason to even consider that Jordan would have. If players were moving around then like now, I think Jordan would have found guys to come play with him, but I don't think he would have been leaving to go be 2nd fiddle in another superstars town. Barkley was dead on, when you are at that level you don't leave, they come to you.

Oh and I edited the Barkely part. The Sixers traded him.

For anyone who remembers Barkley's career, his opinion is silly and meaningless. He was a guy who made it clear that winning was the last thing he cared about, always mumbling some shit about being "handsome, rich, and black." I really don't need that loser weighing in on anyone's leadership abilities.

So him going to the Suns was just about the weather being nicer in Phoenix? Or what about wanting to go to Houston? Dumb comment that has no basis.

LeBron doesn't handle pressure well. I wonder how well he'll handle all the regular season pressure going forward that he never had to handle in the past. Probably badly. Hopefully. Because I have a new villian now goddamn it.

You don't know what you're talking about. Do some research and then get back to me. I don't make dumb comments mainly because I don't talk about shit I don't know about. You'd do well to do the same.

Did any of that stop him from trying to win? He is only the 3rd or 4th best PF of all time.

He may be, but you can't say titles are so important when you're criticizing one guy and then say they don't matter when appraising Barkley, can you? Anyway, just from what I've read of your posts I'd guess you're probably one of the more knowledgeable NBA fans posting here. My guess is that most guys who post here don't know much about Bob Pettit, Elgin Baylor, Elvin Hayes, or Bob McAdoo. Regardless, I'll stand by my view that Barkley was far more interested in gambling, drinking, and boning white broads than he ever was in winning.

You don't know what you're talking about. Do some research and then get back to me. I don't make dumb comments mainly because I don't talk about shit I don't know about. You'd do well to do the same.

I got it. Barkley was fat. I resarched that now what? I didnt find anywhere where he said he didnt give a shit about winning and was more interested in fucking white bitches. If I recall the 90's NBA and Im pretty sure I know more about that period of time than you do, Barkley was one of the two best PF in the league(Karl Malone 1st). So yeah at the end of his career he was fat and sloppy, but to say his opinion is silly makes you look like quite the fool. I think after being one of the 50 best players of all time and one of the top 10 players of the decade, he knows a bit more about the NBA than your dumbass does. But what the fuck do I know? Back to researching more NBA 1990-1999 for me.

You don't know shit, jerkoff. If you did, you'd know exactly how flawed the "50 best players of all time" was. Maybe someone like HOVA who really knows the game can explain it to your dumb ass. And if you think Barkley has any more authority on what it takes to win an NBA championship than LeBron James, you're the fool. You suggested Barkley sought a title in Phoenix as if he went there as a free agent, when in fact he was traded there. I guess your grasp on the 90s isn't quite as tight as you thought.

reggie miller probably deserved a ring. so did allen iverson.