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Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:22 am ]
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No.
Author:  Drop In [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:22 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
No.


This
Author:  JasonB [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:28 am ]
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i was more than happy to get rid of him the first time around. id like to keep it that way
Author:  IkeSouth [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:57 pm ]
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dont like the crawford. too seafoody
Author:  spmack [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:01 pm ]
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immessedup17 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5504907

Do you look into it?

So he can take all the shots that Rose could possibly take? Might as well kept Gordon.
Author:  Mr. Hernandez [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5504907

Do you look into it?

So he can take all the shots that Rose could possibly take? Might as well kept Gordon.


I agree. Gordon also has the more consistent shot. Crawford is just a bad player
Author:  lamar hoyt's burrito [ Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:00 pm ]
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Mr. Hernandez wrote:
spmack wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5504907

Do you look into it?

So he can take all the shots that Rose could possibly take? Might as well kept Gordon.


I agree. Gordon also has the more consistent shot. Crawford is just a bad player


Not a big fan of the nba are you?
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:29 am ]
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Forgive him. Mr. Hernandez is a football guy.
Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:30 am ]
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I would rather have Joey Crawford on my bench.
Author:  Mr. Hernandez [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:33 pm ]
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Oh yea I forgot 7 for 32 = good these days
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:39 am ]
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Last year he averaged 18 PPG on 45% shooting (38% from 3PT) and shot 85% from the line

This in about 30 MPG

Didn't turn it over a lot or foul a whole lot

Please explain to me how that makes him a bad player?

He's instant offense. That's his niche. I'm not claiming he's a great defender or makes Jason Kidd-esque no-look passes. He's a scorer. And he does that well and can still do it well.

That's my defense of him as a player....staying in the context of the thread I don't think he would be a good fit on this team at all. I'm also not sure that he's worth 10 million+ , which it seems like is his asking price (at least) for an extension.
Author:  HOVA [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:46 am ]
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He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:42 am ]
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HOVA wrote:
He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.



I agree. I don't think he would be a good fit on the Bulls. On the Hawks, I think he is a good fit. He gives them a solid scorer when Johnson is on the bench.
Author:  RFDC [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:50 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
HOVA wrote:
He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.



I agree. I don't think he would be a good fit on the Bulls. On the Hawks, I think he is a good fit. He gives them a solid scorer when Johnson is on the bench.


Couldn't he give the Bulls a solid scorer when Rose is on the bench?
Author:  JBills [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:52 am ]
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He's not coming to the Bulls.

That being said, last year was as close to his full potential as he's gotten since joining the league.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:53 am ]
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RFDC wrote:
Bagels wrote:
HOVA wrote:
He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.



I agree. I don't think he would be a good fit on the Bulls. On the Hawks, I think he is a good fit. He gives them a solid scorer when Johnson is on the bench.


Couldn't he give the Bulls a solid scorer when Rose is on the bench?


I know he wasn't a "team" guy,but who gives a shit? He can SCORE which might be an issue this year.
Author:  Douchebag [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:54 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
[He can SCORE which might be an issue this year.

That's been an issue for the last 12 years of this franchise. However this season seems to have the best outlook since the Jordan-era when it comes to scoring.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:19 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Bagels wrote:
HOVA wrote:
He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.



I agree. I don't think he would be a good fit on the Bulls. On the Hawks, I think he is a good fit. He gives them a solid scorer when Johnson is on the bench.


Couldn't he give the Bulls a solid scorer when Rose is on the bench?


Of course he could. It's more a matter of what would it take to get him via trade and would his salary (and extension he obviously wants) be worth it. I don't think it would.

The Hawks are in a slightly different situation; they really have no one who can handle the ball aside from Bibby. So on the second unit and when Bibby is on the bench he is a good option. The Bulls have Watson and even Brewer can handle the ball OK. Yeah he would be an upgrade over either as far as scoring is concerned but again, you have to consider value. I'm just guessing here but if you're going to spend 10 million plus on a 6th man, I think you could do better.

edit: plus, Bibby due to age and poor defense doesn't play as much anymore so it's almost like a platoon...you notice even though Crawford was ATL's "6th man" he was playing 30 mpg...that's a lot for a 6th man. Meanwhile Rose plays the majority of the game so there isn't as much of a need for that.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:20 pm ]
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[ Of course he could. It's more a matter of what would it take to get him via trade and would his salary (and extension he obviously wants) be worth it. I don't think it would.

The Hawks are in a slightly different situation; they really have no one who can handle the ball aside from Bibby. So on the second unit and when Bibby is on the bench he is a good option. The Bulls have Watson and even Brewer can handle the ball OK. Yeah he would be an upgrade over either as far as scoring is concerned but again, you have to consider value. I'm just guessing here but if you're going to spend 10 million plus on a 6th man, I think you could do better.

edit: plus, Bibby due to age and poor defense doesn't play as much anymore so it's almost like a platoon...you notice even though Crawford was ATL's "6th man" he was playing 30 mpg...that's a lot for a 6th man. Meanwhile Rose plays the majority of the game so there isn't as much of a need for that.[/quote]


OH MY GOD ...... I have to read Bagels fucking NBA pearls til May :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:42 pm ]
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Crawford is a loser. He was a loser when we drafted him, he's a loser now. The Bulls do not need an ego to chuck up bricks.

Edit: Just looked it up, last year was the first time the Crawford was on a team with more than 33 wins. What a difference maker! The season after we got rid of him last time we went 47-35.

00-01 Bulls 15-67
01-02 Bulls 21-61
02-03 Bulls 30-52
03-04 Bulls 23-59
04-05 Knicks 33-49
05-06 Knicks 23-59
06-07 Knicks 33-49
07-08 Knicks 23-59
08-09 Warriors 29-53
09-10 Hawks 53-29
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:39 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Crawford is a loser. He was a loser when we drafted him, he's a loser now. The Bulls do not need an ego to chuck up bricks.

Edit: Just looked it up, last year was the first time the Crawford was on a team with more than 33 wins. What a difference maker! The season after we got rid of him last time we went 47-35.

00-01 Bulls 15-67
01-02 Bulls 21-61
02-03 Bulls 30-52
03-04 Bulls 23-59
04-05 Knicks 33-49
05-06 Knicks 23-59
06-07 Knicks 33-49
07-08 Knicks 23-59
08-09 Warriors 29-53
09-10 Hawks 53-29

:lol: I can tell by this post that you don't watch the NBA and really don't know much about basketball. That's funny.
Author:  mel junior [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:46 am ]
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I think Crawford and his game have matured alot since his time here in Chicago. He's not the chucker with no conscience that he was here - and he's really improved his shot.

If the Bulls hadn't made the move on CJ Watson as the combo guard, backing up both Brewer and Rose, then Crawford would be a great fit. As it is, I'm not sure Ronnie Brewer is much more than a second guard off the bench. I like how he defends, but ...
Author:  Bagels [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:27 pm ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote:
OH MY GOD ...... I have to read Bagels fucking NBA pearls til May :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


yeah, be grateful. next to going back and finishing up high school, it's the smartest thing you can do for yourself.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:59 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Crawford is a loser. He was a loser when we drafted him, he's a loser now. The Bulls do not need an ego to chuck up bricks.

Edit: Just looked it up, last year was the first time the Crawford was on a team with more than 33 wins. What a difference maker! The season after we got rid of him last time we went 47-35.

00-01 Bulls 15-67
01-02 Bulls 21-61
02-03 Bulls 30-52
03-04 Bulls 23-59
04-05 Knicks 33-49
05-06 Knicks 23-59
06-07 Knicks 33-49
07-08 Knicks 23-59
08-09 Warriors 29-53
09-10 Hawks 53-29

:lol: I can tell by this post that you don't watch the NBA and really don't know much about basketball. That's funny.



What is that supposed to mean? Anyone who would actually want Crawford on their actual team (not fantasy team) is a lunatic. You don't build teams with selfish players and stat guys. You build losers. As shown by the great records of teams that Crawford played for.
Author:  Bagels [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:01 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Crawford is a loser. He was a loser when we drafted him, he's a loser now. The Bulls do not need an ego to chuck up bricks.

Edit: Just looked it up, last year was the first time the Crawford was on a team with more than 33 wins. What a difference maker! The season after we got rid of him last time we went 47-35.

00-01 Bulls 15-67
01-02 Bulls 21-61
02-03 Bulls 30-52
03-04 Bulls 23-59
04-05 Knicks 33-49
05-06 Knicks 23-59
06-07 Knicks 33-49
07-08 Knicks 23-59
08-09 Warriors 29-53
09-10 Hawks 53-29

:lol: I can tell by this post that you don't watch the NBA and really don't know much about basketball. That's funny.



What is that supposed to mean? Anyone who would actually want Crawford on their actual team (not fantasy team) is a lunatic. You don't build teams with selfish players and stat guys. You build losers. As shown by the great records of teams that Crawford played for.


are you really Walt Williams Neck? Because you're about the only person here that's as dumb as he is
Author:  lamar hoyt's burrito [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:49 pm ]
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HOVA wrote:
He's a taller and slightly less clutch version of Ben Gordon. I just see him being a black hole that Rose will defer to too often for my liking.


Remember clutch doesnt exist :wink:
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