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One source said it’s his impression the Bobcats are canvassing much of the league, to judge what they could do to salvage this season. Jordan told season ticket-holders in the preseason he expected the Bobcats to reach the playoffs and advance in them. Jordan also said he’d prefer not to continue churning the roster with trades. But that was before the Bobcats started playing so poorly. Jordan personally addressed the team after Saturday’s blow-out loss to Boston. Team personnel described Jordan’s remarks as stern and loud. “I’d think they’re proposing different scenarios to different teams; maybe 15 or 20,’’ said one of the sources, adding that Chicago and Detroit might be two teams receptive to making a deal.

What do Wallace and Jackson have remaining on their contracts?

BD wrote:

What do Wallace and Jackson have remaining on their contracts?

Including this year:

Jackson: 3 years and $27.8MM
Wallace: 3 years and $31.5MM*

* 3rd year is a Player Option

Jackson is 33 years old and he's two years left after this one .... pass.

(default disclaimer that yes, i would want carmelo if it was for Asik and a pick, but in general...no)

So.....
Taj
Bogans
A first rounder (Most likely the one they acquire from Charlotte)

For:
Mayo
Darrell Arthur

Does that get it done?

This team is not as solid as Bagels thinks it is currently.

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

What do you suggest would make the team better Walt?

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

What do you suggest would make the team better Walt?

JR Smith

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

JR Smith

Well, assuming this defensive upgrade isn't a fluke

Smith talks a good game.

In 2007: “My whole attitude towards life is different,” Smith said. “I have newfound respect for everyone and everything because my life was almost taken from me . . . I’ve changed the way I act. I’ve realized that it’s not always about me and what I want to go right.”

In 2009: “I think actions speak louder than words,” Smith said. “The fact that I’ve matured and all that stuff is not about saying it, it’s about showing it.”

But his actions have more resembled the oft-troubled J.R. Rider than the J.R. Smith he hopes to be.

"I've been picking up my intensity," Smith said, "trying to get a hand on the ball, scrambling, running around trying to find any open man, running around hard."

Quote:

Well, assuming this defensive upgrade isn't a fluke

yeah.....moron

Brad Miller hit a few 3's last year, let's bring him back too!!!!

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:41 am ]
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Quote: One source said it’s his impression the Bobcats are canvassing much of the league, to judge what they could do to salvage this season. Jordan told season ticket-holders in the preseason he expected the Bobcats to reach the playoffs and advance in them. Jordan also said he’d prefer not to continue churning the roster with trades. But that was before the Bobcats started playing so poorly. Jordan personally addressed the team after Saturday’s blow-out loss to Boston. Team personnel described Jordan’s remarks as stern and loud. “I’d think they’re proposing different scenarios to different teams; maybe 15 or 20,’’ said one of the sources, adding that Chicago and Detroit might be two teams receptive to making a deal. I would be against either of them because I wouldn't want Jackson for one, and I would want Wallace but I'm sure the price is too high.

Author:	Bagels [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43 am ]
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maybe they could get Tyrus back now that Noah is out

Author:	Douchebag [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:50 am ]
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Strip Cliub revenues would be through the roof if Stephen Jackson came here. A little too shoot-ey (In more ways than just basketball) for me though. Their roster is a collection of suck for the most part. I wouldn't mind bringing in Diop to maybe fill the void while Noah is out, but I think he is massively overpaid.

Author:	BD [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:26 pm ]
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What do Wallace and Jackson have remaining on their contracts?

Author:	IkeSouth [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:25 pm ]
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best player on the bobcats is jordan himself. we should claim hometown ownership of mike singletary and trade him for jordan. then put mike in at center. i dont know it sounded like a good idea

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Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:49 am ]
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apparently they're scouting Courtney Lee now......pass

Author:	mel junior [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:54 am ]
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BD wrote: What do Wallace and Jackson have remaining on their contracts? Including this year: Jackson: 3 years and $27.8MM Wallace: 3 years and $31.5MM* * 3rd year is a Player Option Jackson is 33 years old and he's two years left after this one .... pass.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:08 pm ]
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mel junior wrote: BD wrote: What do Wallace and Jackson have remaining on their contracts? Including this year: Jackson: 3 years and $27.8MM Wallace: 3 years and $31.5MM* * 3rd year is a Player Option Jackson is 33 years old and he's two years left after this one .... pass. maybe i'm crazy but I like the team as comprised....I wouldn't be opposed to a minor trade but I think at this point....I don't want Carmelo, I don't want any of the Bobcats trash...i'm content as-is (default disclaimer that yes, i would want carmelo if it was for Asik and a pick, but in general...no)

Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:23 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: (default disclaimer that yes, i would want carmelo if it was for Asik and a pick, but in general...no) Asik is untouchable.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:24 pm ]
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he's CoF's MVP

Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:13 pm ]
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The people in favor of bringing in Jackson are absolutely crazy. The Bulls don't need to bring in anyone that will be hoisting up "tough shots" all throughout the game. He would probably provide a spark when he first gets here, but the guy always vanishes after spending more than just a season on a team. He's a cancer and he would be signed until he's 36 years old. Unless the Bulls can make some sort of favorable deal for Mayo, they should just not do anything. I wouldn't mind moving Taj in a deal for him, but the Bulls would have to get a big back in return. I've heard Darrel Arthur's name come up a few times. He's serviceable and can play while Noah is still out. So..... Taj Bogans A first rounder (Most likely the one they acquire from Charlotte) For: Mayo Darrell Arthur Does that get it done?

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:12 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote: So..... Taj Bogans A first rounder (Most likely the one they acquire from Charlotte) For: Mayo Darrell Arthur Does that get it done? Works for me. It's not like they need a Dwight Howard-esque big man back. Just a guy who could get a rebound and fill some space. I wouldn't like seing Taj go but damn it man, they HAVE to get a real two-guard. This team is not as solid as Bagels thinks it is currently. Without a real honest-to-God, starting NBA SG they're just not very good unfortunately.

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:32 pm ]
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no

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:41 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: This team is not as solid as Bagels thinks it is currently. yes, they are they're 19-10 coming off a tough stretch of the schedule and are easing into the easy part. they'll have Noah back in time to assimilate into the team before the playoffs. they're going to win the division easily. that's not solid? aside from trading for Carmelo or something any move is going to be a minor one. My point is that huge trade (whatever it is) aside, I don't want the Courtney Lee & Stephen Jackson pu pu platter.

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:34 pm ]
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Douchebag and Bagels try watching and reading, thats called learning. So read and learn Statement-making makes "SportsCenter." A teeth-clenching, clutch 3-pointer. A chest-to-face dunk. A shot swat to the second row. But sometimes, a statement is made amid the basketball whirlwind — a statement so strong, yet so brief, even fervent and focused fans miss it. Such was the case Friday night at the Pepsi Center, when Nuggets guard J.R. Smith entered the game against the Lakers and went right at Kobe Bryant — as a defender. "His very first play he fronted Kobe, instead of waiting for Kobe to kick his butt," Nuggets coach George Karl said of Smith, who slithered in front of Bryant and prevented the all-star from receiving the ball in the low post. "(Smith) knew that he would have to do some work early." Smith's statement that night to the Lakers — and to his coaches and teammates — was that he's willing to fight on defense. For years, Smith was a defensive matador, waving the red flag, allowing players to pass. Now he's a defensive matador who utilizes his sword, so to speak. "I've been picking up my intensity," Smith said, "trying to get a hand on the ball, scrambling, running around trying to find any open man, running around hard." Smith still is no Bruce Bowen. But in his first three games back from a season-starting suspension, Smith's defense has been as impressive as his offense — if not more impressive, according to Karl. What does all this mean? Well, assuming this defensive upgrade isn't a fluke, this could mean more playing time for Denver's top reserve — so far, Smith has averaged 14.3 points and 27 minutes per game. In previous seasons, Karl has called Smith a "good-bad player." And after Monday's practice, Karl said Smith's minutes are based on just how much "bad" Smith can eliminate from his performances. And with Smith playing passionate defense, "the more he will be effective," said Karl, whose Nuggets (7-3) play Toronto (5-5) In previous seasons, Karl sometimes mixed and matched his lineup in the final minutes of close games, putting in Smith for an offensive possession and then, say, Anthony Carter or Dahntay Jones for a defensive possession. "I think (Smith) will be in more," Karl said in reference to late-game defensive situations. "I definitely won't say all," noting that the coach also likes newcomer Arron Afflalo as a defensive shooting guard. But the fact that Karl is even having this internal debate shows Smith's progress. Nuggets assistant Jamahl Mosley spends ample time coaching Smith, and Mosley sees Smith's evolving work ethic in film study and practice sessions, which leads, in part, to plays such as the Kobe-fronting or Smith's drawn charge in Friday's 105-79 rout of the Lakers. "He's coming into a maturity about himself," Mosley said. "He's understanding what it takes to get to that next level. He's always been a guy who has seen other people achieve certain things, but I think he's determined enough to get to that next level. That's been the biggest improvement — his maturity level and his ability to work and go after what he wants." Smith said he has never been this confident playing defense. In Smith's second game, for instance, he had four steals. For Karl, though, it's the little things that aren't on the stat sheet that showcase Smith's confidence. "I think he's understanding that, for us, so much of defense comes from when our weakside defense is alert and active," Karl said, "and too many times over the last few years, our weak side has been asleep. But lately, our weak side is learning and J.R. is a part of that. He's learning to rotate early, help early, and sometimes he's a free safety and he's allowed to go anywhere he wants to go. And then his one-on-one defense and his courage to get over screens has improved too."

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Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:15 pm ]
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Walt Williams Neck wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Walt Williams Neck wrote: no What do you suggest would make the team better Walt? JR Smith

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:24 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote: Walt Williams Neck wrote: Walt Williams Neck wrote: no JR Smith [/quote] he plays that tough defense Thibs loves so much

Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:26 pm ]
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He also might be a bigger clown that Stephen Jackson.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:58 pm ]
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Quote: Well, assuming this defensive upgrade isn't a fluke yeah.....moron Brad Miller hit a few 3's last year, let's bring him back too!!!!

Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:03 pm ]
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Smith has talked about how he is becoming a better person/player for years now: http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2010/01/25/is-j-r-smith-a-lost-cause/ Quote: Smith talks a good game. In 2007: “My whole attitude towards life is different,” Smith said. “I have newfound respect for everyone and everything because my life was almost taken from me . . . I’ve changed the way I act. I’ve realized that it’s not always about me and what I want to go right.” In 2009: “I think actions speak louder than words,” Smith said. “The fact that I’ve matured and all that stuff is not about saying it, it’s about showing it.” But his actions have more resembled the oft-troubled J.R. Rider than the J.R. Smith he hopes to be. From the recent article you posted: Walt Williams Neck wrote: "I've been picking up my intensity," Smith said, "trying to get a hand on the ball, scrambling, running around trying to find any open man, running around hard." The dude is just a bad guy. Yes, he shows flashes of being a great player, but there are too many negatives to bringing this Smith in.

Author:	HOVA [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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I would love to get Wallace but what would you do with Deng? Swap them? Deng has a better 3pt shot this season but now his mid range game and free throw shooting sucks.