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Author: | conns7901 [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Hawks/Bulls |
Bulls in 5. |
Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Good to know Dwight will not be around to throw Rose into the floor. |
Author: | RFDC [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
According to OKC, the Hawks are the better team. Bulls in 6 |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Bulls in 3. Kurt Heinrich and Jamal Crawford sabotage ATL. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Bulls in 3. Kurt Heinrich and Jamal Crawford sabotage ATL. Hawks are just gonna forfeit game 4? |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Yep. Just not even bother. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
kirk hinrich will have his best games of his career. |
Author: | Phil McCracken [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
IkeSouth wrote: kirk hinrich will have his best games of his career. And lose all 4 games. Jamal Crawford won't bail him out like Ben Gordon used to |
Author: | ZephMarshack [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
I need to hear Tony in Matteson's full scouting report, particularly on the Hawks' backcourt. If Hinrich's hamstring is alright, I think the Bulls will probably win easily. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
conns7901 wrote: Bulls in 5. I agree. This is a great matchup for the Bulls. If "Kurt" is hurting in this series, then it might be a sweep. |
Author: | spmack [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
IkeSouth wrote: kirk hinrich will have his best games of his career. Hinrich's knee may keep him out. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Eastern Conference Round 2 Playoff Preview: Chicago vs. Atlanta Kurt Helin Apr 29, 2011, 2:19 AM EDT Leave a comment Bulls Pacers Basketball AP SEASON RECORDS Bulls: 62-20 (No. 1 seed in East) Hawks: 44-38(No. 5 seed) SEASON SERIES Bulls 2-1, all three games took place in a three-week span in March. The Hawks win was by three points at home, the Bulls two wins (one at home, one on the road) were by 18 and 33 points. PLAYOFF SERIES Bulls: defeated Indiana Pacers 4-1 Hawks: defeated Orlando Magic 4-2 SERIES SCHEDULE (times Eastern) Game 1 — Mon. May 2 at Chicago 8:00PM (TNT) Game 2 — Wed. May 4 at Chicago 8:00PM (TNT) Game 3 — Fri. May 6 at Atlanta TBD (ESPN) Game 4 – Sun. May 8 at Atlanta 8:00PM (TNT) Game 5 * Tue. May 10 at Chicago TBD (TNT) Game 6 * Thu. May 12 at Atlanta TBD (ESPN) Game 7 * Sun. May 15 at Chicago TBD (TNT) * If necessary KEY INJURIES Bulls: Carlos Boozer will play but is battling a case of turf toe, which could make him less effective (Jazz fans, stop laughing). Hawks: Kirk Hinrich, we don’t know the extent of his hamstring injury suffered in Game 6 of the Magic series, but he left the game and will have an MRI Friday. OFFENSE/DEFENSE RANKING (points per possession) Bulls: Offense 105.4 (12th in NBA); Defense 97.4 (1st in NBA) Hawks: Offense 103.7 (20th in NBA); Defense 104.1 (15th in NBA) THREE KEY BULLS Derrick Rose. He remains the focal point of the Bulls offense and the creator of most shot opportunities — but the Pacers and Paul George did a good job of making him less efficient. He shot just 37 percent in that series, the Pacers did about as well as could be expected, even though Rose made big plays as a closer in the series. In the Bulls two wins against the Hawks, he had big games, but he had just 12 in their one loss. The Hawks do not have a good defensive matchup for Rose, he should have more free space this series. Luol Deng. He will draw some key defensive assignments, probably some Joe Johnson time as one might expect. He’s also key because in the Bulls two wins he had big games, 27 points in the 33-point blowout Bulls win. They will need his offense like that again. Joakim Noah. As always his job is primarily defensive, but this time he draws one tough task — Al Horford. Yes, technically as the center he could draw Jason Collins for stretches, but let’s be serious, Collins has served his purpose for the Hawks and he is no longer a threat. In the Hawks regular season win against Chicago Horford had 31 and 16. Noah also will be the strong side help to silence the Hawks isolation sets. If he has a good defensive series the Bulls will win and win quickly. THREE KEY HAWKS Jamal Crawford. Coach Larry Drew went to more isolation sets in the first round against Orlando, and Crawford returned to his Sixth Man of the Year form. The Hawks need shot creation in this series, they need to find a way to break down the Bulls overload defense and Crawford is one of their best chances. Al Horford. The real way to break down the Bulls defense is not isolations on the perimeter but beating them inside. Horford is a gifted interior player and it’s no coincidence he had 31 in the Hawks one win over the Bulls. For them to have any chance in this series he will have to have some monster games. Joe Johnson. The Bulls defense is designed to shut down the exact iso-Joe sets that the Hawks have had success with in the first round against Orlando. Johnson is going to have to both hit some contested jumpers but mostly he has move the ball to the weakside with quick passes (skip passes ideally). OUTLOOK This is about the best matchup the Bulls could have gotten. The Hawks ball-movement offense that didn’t work well for them all season long worked less well against the rest of the league worked less well against the Bulls. They averaged 80 points per game (down from 94. and had an offensive rating of 92.4 (points per 100 possessions, down from 103.2 during the season). The Hawks shot fewer threes, got to the line less often, didn’t rebound as well and a host of other problems. But those are the old Hawks, you say. The new Hawks of this postseason — the ones who just knocked off the Magic — have gone back to more of the isolation sets they are comfortable with. They are getting more from Jamal Crawford. The Bulls defense is designed specifically to stop isolation sets. It overloads the strong side and the only way you really beat it is good ball movement. Which we established the Hawks do not do well. Meanwhile, the Bulls were basically just a slightly better version of themselves against the Hawks. Rose was good and when he was somebody — Deng mostly — came with him and that provided enough offense to win. The Hawks best chance is to create turnovers and run more. The Bulls defense is a wall when it is set but they can be beat in transition. The Hawks need to create turnovers and push the ball on everything. They have to defend better than they have all season. They have to find someone who can slow Rose. They need to play a lot better than they did to beat the Magic. The Bulls just need to be the Bulls. PREDICTION Like I said before, this may be the best matchup for the Bulls this playoffs. Bulls in 5. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
I'm already looking past this series. I've been trying to decide who the better matchup is between the Heat or Celtics... |
Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Krazy Ivan wrote: I'm already looking past this series. I've been trying to decide who the better matchup is between the Heat or Celtics... Celtics. The Heat scare me, hopefully those two teams beat each other up, and the old C's have nothing left against the Bulls. |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:32 am ] |
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Douchebag wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: I'm already looking past this series. I've been trying to decide who the better matchup is between the Heat or Celtics... Celtics. The Heat scare me, hopefully those two teams beat each other up, and the old C's have nothing left against the Bulls. Yeah. I was also thinking they could do well against a Heat team with an injured Wade or LeBron. But if both teams are relatively healthy, Boston would be my wish... |
Author: | spmack [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
spmack wrote: IkeSouth wrote: kirk hinrich will have his best games of his career. Hinrich's knee may keep him out. It was his hammy? I thought it was his knee..... |
Author: | SHARK [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Kirk Hinrich's hamstring is being looked at, and there's a chance the former Bull might be a "no go" in this series starting Monday night on TNT. Nevertheless, I think the Bulls take care of biz in only 5 games. |
Author: | beni hanna [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
If you missed this Hawks/Bulls analysis it is worth viewing. Barkley and Kenny Smith chatting up the matchup and Smith drops a hockey reference! Awesome and accurate. http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_o ... ide_4.nba/ I cannot wait to see how the Bulls treat backup tool Hilton Armstrong that stole the ball and shot a 3 at the end of their last game. |
Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
immessedup17 wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: IkeSouth wrote: kirk hinrich will have his best games of his career. And lose all 4 games. Jamal Crawford won't bail him out like Ben Gordon used to Oh yeah, Ben Gordon was sooooo great. Gordon has taken a team farther into the playoffs than your boy T-Mac |
Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
immessedup17 wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: Gordon has taken a team farther into the playoffs than your boy T-Mac What team has he "taken"? Certainly not the Bulls. I'm sure his +/- in the Miami series was God awful. I am not going to get roped into one of your many NBA arguments. I don't even like Ben Gordon that much. But +/- is an extremely flawed statistic in the NBA. |
Author: | Apologist [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
That Iso-Joe shit has to be the least innovative offense in the Association. I still have no idea how he got max money. |
Author: | Phil McCracken [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Apologist wrote: That Iso-Joe shit has to be the least innovative offense in the Association. I still have no idea how he got max money. Because if the Hawks didn't pay him the max he would have left and they would have been scrambling to replace his scoring. I am not arguing that he deserves it but they really didn't have much of a choice. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
i agree. atlanta would have lost all 3 fans they have left if they didnt pay him to keep him around. if kirk is out this series not only got easier it got more boring. whatever... i cant imagine this being any sort of contest. well probably be in a shit rhythm come conference series. |
Author: | HOVA [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Without Hinrich the Hawks will have to score over 100 points a game to be competitive in this series. Considering the only let that happen 15 times during the season I don't like the Hawks chances. With Boozer out or limited that means the Taj and Kurt Thomas will play more mins. That will make the Bulls an even better defensive team. |
Author: | RFDC [ Mon May 02, 2011 11:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Hawks and Bulls game tonight and where the hell is bagels???? |
Author: | Douchebag [ Mon May 02, 2011 11:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
RFDC wrote: Hawks and Bulls game tonight and where the hell is bagels???? Mourning the inevitable demise of the Hawks? |
Author: | 312player [ Mon May 02, 2011 11:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
i hope hinrich does play, i like seeing rose abuse that buster |
Author: | SHARK [ Mon May 02, 2011 1:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
312player wrote: i hope hinrich does play, i like seeing rose abuse that buster Kirk Hinrich is out...Whoever Atlanta head coach Larry Drew assigns to cover D.Rose is in for a long, difficult series. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon May 02, 2011 1:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
SHARK wrote: 312player wrote: i hope hinrich does play, i like seeing rose abuse that buster Kirk Hinrich is out...Whoever Atlanta head coach Larry Drew assigns to cover D.Rose is in for a long, difficult series. I think its Kurt Hinrich... |
Author: | SHARK [ Mon May 02, 2011 3:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hawks/Bulls |
Terry's Peeps wrote: SHARK wrote: 312player wrote: i hope hinrich does play, i like seeing rose abuse that buster Kirk Hinrich is out...Whoever Atlanta head coach Larry Drew assigns to cover D.Rose is in for a long, difficult series. I think its Kurt Hinrich... Okay, Vinny...Now, go get dunked on by Blake Griffin! |
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