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Author:	jimmypasta [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:31 pm ]
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Yahoo Sports reports: The Bulls remain a sleeper to acquire Magic center Dwight Howard, several NBA executives believe. “Chicago may tell Orlando to take any two players -- or three -- besides (Derrick) Rose,” one GM said. The Bulls could offer a package that includes Joakim Noah and Luol Deng or Carlos Boozer.

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:35 pm ]
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Take all 3. We can fill those shoes! Now, will he resign here? Plus some people in the Bulls hierarchy will need to change their opinion on him.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:41 pm ]
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Would be fitting if the city of big shoulders would acquire a guy with .... oh forget it Im going to go hang up on myself .

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:59 pm ]
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Really don't need the big man version of LeBron. No thanks. I like the combination of Noah and Deng better. Of course if they want to take Boozer and crap back I would do that.

Author:	bigfan [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:01 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Really don't need the big man version of LeBron. No thanks. I like the combination of Noah and Deng better. Of course if they want to take Boozer and crap back I would do that. You and Pax agree

Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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Dwight Howard is a cry-baby thug. With that being said, he is an upgrade from Noah and Boozer, combined. Although I would prefer to keep Deng if possible.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:25 pm ]
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I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:29 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Seriously, I thought ud been cured f/ this bullshit? Do you not remember any of our previous convos on this subject? Dwight is the best center in the league. To say you wouldn't want the best center in the league playing w/ the pest pg in the league undercuts your perceived basketball knowledge greatly...

Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Gotta disagree with you on this, sir. As lazy or whiny as Howard might be, his one post move is one more than Noah features in the frontcourt. Whenever you have the chance to grab a top 10 - 15 player, you do it.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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Caron Butler or a Jason Richardson should be their target. I would really try to move Boozer if I could because he is stunting the growth of Gibson. The Bulls are a scoring 2 guard away from winning a title.

Author:	Free Ajent [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:33 pm ]
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I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Seriously, I thought ud been cured f/ this bullshit? Do you not remember any of our previous convos on this subject? Dwight is the best center in the league. To say you wouldn't want the best center in the league playing w/ the pest pg in the league undercuts your perceived basketball knowledge greatly... It's the tallest midget award. This is the worst shape the league has been in when it comes to centers probably in it's history. The Bulls need to build around Rose. Howard gets in the way of what Rose does best and he has a losing mentality. No thanks.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:36 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Jbi11s wrote: HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Seriously, I thought ud been cured f/ this bullshit? Do you not remember any of our previous convos on this subject? Dwight is the best center in the league. To say you wouldn't want the best center in the league playing w/ the pest pg in the league undercuts your perceived basketball knowledge greatly... It's the tallest midget award. This is the worst shape the league has been in when it comes to centers probably in it's history. The Bulls need to build around Rose. Howard gets in the way of what Rose does best and he has a losing mentality. No thanks. So by that thinking, Michael Jordan had a losing mentality before winning 6 rings? Do you care more about derrick rose's numbers or rings? I can tell you which one d.rose cares about more...

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:37 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Gotta disagree with you on this, sir. As lazy or whiny as Howard might be, his one post move is one more than Noah features in the frontcourt. Whenever you have the chance to grab a top 10 - 15 player, you do it. Giving up Noah and Deng to get Howard would hurt the Bulls. Howard clogs up the middle and can't shot. Basically he would become a defender on offense when Rose is trying to penetrate. You wouldn't be able to use Howard in a pick in roll. No thanks!

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:38 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: So by that thinking, Michael Jordan had a losing mentality before winning 6 rings? Do you care more about derrick rose's numbers or rings? I can tell you which one d.rose cares about more... Really? You have to know how silly that sounds. Everything MJ did was about winning. He improved some part of his game every year. To even put him and Howard and the same sentence is crazy. Rose will win a title without having Howard. Having Deng and Noah will help him get there more than Howard would. It's that simple.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:39 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: HOVA wrote: I would rather have Noah than Howard. All he is going to do is get in the way of what Rose is trying to do. He can't shoot and he demands the ball. He cares more about posing and looking good than he does winning. There is no reason he's been in the league this long and he hasn't developed 1 post move other than he's too lazy. Even Shaq as dominate as he was developed one. Gotta disagree with you on this, sir. As lazy or whiny as Howard might be, his one post move is one more than Noah features in the frontcourt. Whenever you have the chance to grab a top 10 - 15 player, you do it. Giving up Noah and Deng to get Howard would hurt the Bulls. Howard clogs up the middle and can't shot. Basically he would become a defender on offense when Rose is trying to penetrate. You wouldn't be able to use Howard in a pick in roll. No thanks! You sir are disqualified f/ nba thoughts for one year. To say dwight howard could not be used in a pick and roll w/ derrick rose is complete bullshit, and one of the worst comments I've ever seen a supposed nba fan make... Good God.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:41 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote: I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards. You watch basketball right? You see the way Rose plays the game? How does Howard help? He gets in the way of it. He clogs the middle and he becomes a defender on the pick and roll because he can't shoot. All of that makes as much of a difference as him being a cry baby and a me first guy.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:42 pm ]
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Why the fuck are you valuing shooting so much when Joakim has the worst shot to ever be broadcast on television? This is really frustrating coming f/ someone like you who knows a little bit about basketball...

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:43 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Free Ajent wrote: I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards. You watch basketball right? You see the way Rose plays the game? How does Howard help? He gets in the way of it. He clogs the middle and he becomes a defender on the pick and roll because he can't shoot. All of that makes as much of a difference as him being a cry baby and a me first guy. What great center didn't clog the lane and try to be involved on every play around the rim?

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:44 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: You sir are disqualified f/ nba thoughts for one year. To say dwight howard could not be used in a pick and roll w/ derrick rose is complete bullshit, and one of the worst comments I've ever seen a supposed nba fan make... Good God. I'll be here all winter. The Bulls have guys that are a threat to hit a shot off the pick and roll now. Howard couldn't hit a shot if his life depended on it.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:45 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: HOVA wrote: Free Ajent wrote: I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards. You watch basketball right? You see the way Rose plays the game? How does Howard help? He gets in the way of it. He clogs the middle and he becomes a defender on the pick and roll because he can't shoot. All of that makes as much of a difference as him being a cry baby and a me first guy. What great center didn't clog the lane and try to be involved on every play around the rim? Howard isn't a great center. He's an above average center in a league filled with below average guys. Since Rose is the best player on the team any player coming in should compliment him. Howard hurts his game.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:46 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: Why the fuck are you valuing shooting so much when Joakim has the worst shot to ever be broadcast on television? This is really frustrating coming f/ someone like you who knows a little bit about basketball... Noah makes that ugly shot. Having guys that can shoot gives Rose a better chance to attack the basket. I'm sure you may have noticed how that works watching a couple basketball games. No thanks!

Author:	Free Ajent [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:47 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Free Ajent wrote: I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards. You watch basketball right? You see the way Rose plays the game? How does Howard help? He gets in the way of it. He clogs the middle and he becomes a defender on the pick and roll because he can't shoot. All of that makes as much of a difference as him being a cry baby and a me first guy. Yeah, I would consider myself a knowledgeable NBA guy. Just because the guy can't hit the outside shot at a high percentage doesn't mean he isn't valuable in the pick and roll. Noah doesn't exactly hit the shot with consistency either. I think Rose will be just fine on the offensive side of the ball if somehow the Bulls land Howard,I mean the guy could get 15+ points alone on just put backs. You give me the option of Noah or Howard, it's a no brainer son.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: Jbi11s wrote: You sir are disqualified f/ nba thoughts for one year. To say dwight howard could not be used in a pick and roll w/ derrick rose is complete bullshit, and one of the worst comments I've ever seen a supposed nba fan make... Good God. I'll be here all winter. The Bulls have guys that are a threat to hit a shot off the pick and roll now. Howard couldn't hit a shot if his life depended on it. Wow. Meatballish mentality. This lockout has dulled your nba thoughts... So trading deng, but still having boozer, korver, and maybe butler is just too mucg for you? Be real. Did Howard bang an ex wife or something?

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:49 pm ]
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You give me the option of DENG and Noah or Howard and I'll take DENG and Noah all day on this team. They're winners. That means a lot.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:50 pm ]
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Free Ajent wrote: HOVA wrote: Free Ajent wrote: I'll take Howard over Noah any day of the week. Come on man, the guy is 20/10 all day, he is a beast on the boards. You watch basketball right? You see the way Rose plays the game? How does Howard help? He gets in the way of it. He clogs the middle and he becomes a defender on the pick and roll because he can't shoot. All of that makes as much of a difference as him being a cry baby and a me first guy. Yeah, I would consider myself a knowledgeable NBA guy. Just because the guy can't hit the outside shot at a high percentage doesn't mean he isn't valuable in the pick and roll. Noah doesn't exactly hit the shot with consistency either. I think Rose will be just fine on the offensive side of the ball if somehow the Bulls land Howard,I mean the guy could get 15+ points alone on just put backs. You give me the option of Noah or Howard, it's a no brainer son. FA just moved ahead of Hova on the nba knowledge list of csfmb members... I apologize for not seeing this sooner FA... Pretty sure D.Rose is special enough to figure out how to play with anyone...

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:51 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: HOVA wrote: Jbi11s wrote: You sir are disqualified f/ nba thoughts for one year. To say dwight howard could not be used in a pick and roll w/ derrick rose is complete bullshit, and one of the worst comments I've ever seen a supposed nba fan make... Good God. I'll be here all winter. The Bulls have guys that are a threat to hit a shot off the pick and roll now. Howard couldn't hit a shot if his life depended on it. Wow. Meatballish mentality. This lockout has dulled your nba thoughts... So trading deng, but still having boozer, korver, and maybe butler is just too mucg for you? Be real. Did Howard bang an ex wife or something? IMO Deng and Noah are more valuable to the team than Howard would be. If Howard was Shaq in his prime the fact that he couldn't shoot wouldn't matter because Shaq was better than Rose will ever be.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:52 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: You give me the option of DENG and Noah or Howard and I'll take DENG and Noah all day on this team. They're winners. That means a lot. Meatballs value such bullshit.

Author:	HOVA [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:52 pm ]
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Jbi11s wrote: FA just moved ahead of Hova on the nba knowledge list of csfmb members... I apologize for not seeing this sooner FA... Pretty sure D.Rose is special enough to figure out how to play with anyone... When building a team you don't force your franchise player to play with ANYONE. You bring in guys that compliment their game. The Bulls didn't go out and try to get a dominant center to play with MJ because it would have been stupid.

Author:	Free Ajent [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:53 pm ]
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HOVA wrote: You give me the option of DENG and Noah or Howard and I'll take DENG and Noah all day on this team. They're winners. That means a lot. I'm going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Regardless of you saying Howard is the tallest midget when it comes to centers, the guy is the best in the league right now, period. The guy changes the game on defense alone!!! Would you rather have Butler/Howard or Deng/Noah?

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