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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Steve Nash?? |
Doubt it happens but something to think about. The Bulls, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, and walking the walk vs. talking the talk Matt Moore Jun 3, 2012, 5:30 PM EDT See, here’s the problem with the superstar team-up era. The Chicago Bulls have put together a team that features a perennial MVP candidate at 23, an All-Star wing defender who can shoot, a hyper-active emotional powderkeg with some offensive skills built in at seven-feet, a deep bench, some microwave scorers… and Carlos Boozer. (No one’s perfect.) And yet when CSN Chicago reports that the Bulls are planning to make a run at either Jason Kidd or Steve Nash, both unrestricted free agents this summer, I have nothing but skepticism because Chicago has not been a franchise that has pursued being “elite” since Jordan walked away. That team they have is good enough, it’s great enough. But I still can’t believe Chicago will really try and make that monster move, because of the money involved and their past history. From CSN Chicago: While the front office may seek out minimum-salary veterans at several positions, including point guard, a source tells CSNChicago.com that the Bulls will take a run at future Hall of Famers Steve Nash and Jason Kidd in free agency, trying to convince the former All-Stars that they will have an opportunity to win a championship, of which Kidd has one, from last season with the Mavericks, and Nash has none, in Chicago. According to the same source, the rest of the team’s “core”–starters Rose, Deng, Hamilton, center Joakim Noah and power forward Carlos Boozer, as well as reserve big men Taj Gibson and Omer Asik, the latter of whom is a restricted free agent this summer, though the Bulls are likely to match any offers for him from opposing teams–is “safe,” though team management will surely at least listen to trade offers. via Rose making progress, Bulls thinking big?. Perhaps you’re wondering how on Earth either of those guys will be willing to make a massive paycut to play backup. Well, here’s the thing. They may not have to. We saw this year a lot of teams playing two-point-guard lineups effectively. Honestly, with how fast the league is moving, you almost have the luxury of playing smallball a lot of the time against most teams. Kidd is probably reaching a point where he’s best suited as a role player on the bench anyway, but Nash could excel with Rose next to him. There’s no reason Rose can’t guard some of the bigger 2-guards, and the ones he can’t? Luol Deng can cover. The number of teams with incredible scorers at both the 2 and 3 spots is really in the 3-4 range, with Miami and OKC the obvious inclusions there. But still, you can’t help but be concerned. Jerry Reinsdorf, the Bulls owner, has made noise about going into the luxury tax this summer which would be a big departure for him. He’s going to have to if he wants to keep that core mentioned above together, considering Asik’s likely offers in restricted free agency and Derrick Rose‘s extension kicking in, and that’s before trying to add a Hall of Fame point guard. So, no, I don’t think the Bulls will swing for the fences with either player. I think we’ll see the same Bulls team back, but it may not be as good. But then, I don’t know why that’s a problem. When healthy, that’s still more than enough for the Bulls to win the title. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Rose and Nash could play together. Anyone and Nash could play together. Don't think I'd want Kidd. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Nash is going to the Heat and the Bulls won't pay luxury tax. Quote: Chicago has not been a franchise that has pursued being “elite” since Jordan walked away. That team they have is good enough, it’s great enough. Surgically precise dig. The Bulls truly are "great enough." |
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| Author: | BD [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
I'm not sure that Nash goes to Miami either, but he's going to be offered much more money, albeit to much lesser teams, so he'll have to decide on going to a team that could contend vs. getting one more pay day (for a year or two) before retiring. The probably with the Bulls is that 1) their money they can offer is going to be significantly less 2) Rose is going to come back at some point. Yes, Nash and Rose can play together, but defensively, that's a nightmare, and is either player going to want to change their game to help the other fit in better? It sounds exciting, but I think there's about a 1% chance of actually landing Nash. Kidd may be more realistic because I think a lot of people saw his game decline more and more. He can still play, he can still hit a stand-alone 3 pointer, but he's more clearly nearing the end. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
If Nash were to take a pay cut, he would still want to go to a team where he could play his game. That means he would not want to play for the Bulls or the Heat because he would not have the ball in his hands. I would look for Nash to take less money to play for the Lakers. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
not sure how Nash helps Miami with the sets they run (or don't). I don't want Kidd but I'd certainly take Nash for another season or two. He wouldn't work with Noah though... |
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| Author: | SHARK [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Aren't BOTH the Bulls & Heat thisclose to the NBA's luxury tax? I don't think either team can offer more than the mid-level exception for a guy like Nash... |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
I think Nash just wants his ring at this point, even if that means taking the MLE and just sort of going with the flow. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Nash or Kidd coming here at the MLE would be great. They can be a place-holder until Derrick gets back, and still help this team play at a high level. Having either of them come off the bench once playoff time roles around would be huge. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
City of Fools wrote: not sure how Nash helps Miami with the sets they run (or don't). I don't want Kidd but I'd certainly take Nash for another season or two. He wouldn't work with Noah though... You can't even say the name Noah without a terrible thought following it. |
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| Author: | trickybeck [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Why wouldn't Nash work with Noah? Nash has worked with just about anybody. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
don't want nash here...the bulls can weather the storm minus rose and be a 4th seed..bring rose back for the playoffs..bulls need a shooting guard not another point...trade noah and kidd has been washed up for some time, no on him also. |
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| Author: | donspiracy [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Imminent, for both of those guys. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
Nash is a minus defender @ this point, and never was a great defensive player... I doubt he goes to miami, or bulls, but who knows... |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steve Nash?? |
did someone say blake griffen |
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