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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
It was so promising. The Bulls were poised to get back to the Eastern Conference Finals and take down the Heat. They battled through injuries and won games with JL3 and Mike James. Deng played through his injuries and Rose looked ready to go for the playoffs. Then Rose blew out his knee, Noah turns his ankle and the Bulls can't beat Philly. Then the Heat win the championship. What a terrible season. I wish they were in the lottery, so they could have drafted someone decent. I guess next year they will be in the lottery by the time Rose gets back on the floor. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. Bingo. Weird hearing KC Johnson talk about how he thought the Bulls had a good chance to beat the Heat if they were healthy. Not gonna happen. |
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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
You never know what's going to happen until you play the games. Bosh didn't ever play most of the Eastern Conference Finals. I'm not saying that's a deal sealer, but can you honestly say that of all the teams in the NBA there is a team that plays better defense than the Bulls? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. Based on what we saw in the finals I agree with you. Based on what we saw against the Celtics I disagree with you. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
RFDC wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. Based on what we saw in the finals I agree with you. Based on what we saw against the Celtics I disagree with you. Understandable. Against Boston Miami looked very mortal, which is strange because I think OKC would've absolutely obliterated Boston in the Finals. Just goes to show how little we know. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. I completely disagree. There's no way for you to say that with any certainly. Two weeks ago we both thought Miami was done. Miami was a very beatable champion this year. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Peoria Matt wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. Bingo. Weird hearing KC Johnson talk about how he thought the Bulls had a good chance to beat the Heat if they were healthy. Not gonna happen. They did have a good chance. The only reason to think otherwise is if you think this year's playoffs would play out exactly like last year's. I think it's clear that logic is silly. The Bulls were better than Miami all season long, they just lose their leader. Would we be watching the heat right now if LeBron tore his ACL two months ago? |
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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
I kind of wish Deng would have got his surgery earlier in the season because he probably would have been ready to go for the playoffs. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Mini Ditka wrote: I kind of wish Deng would have got his surgery earlier in the season because he probably would have been ready to go for the playoffs. He'll be ready for the 2013 Playoffs. |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Mini Ditka wrote: I kind of wish Deng would have got his surgery earlier in the season because he probably would have been ready to go for the playoffs. He'll be ready for the 2013 Playoffs. Good chance he is gone. The latest rumors have 5-6 teams interested. I can understand them trading him to get into the lottery this year (Matt Harrison?), then missing the playoffs to get another lottery choice next year, then they amnesty Boozer after next year to create approx 20M of cap space... |
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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
If the Bulls are in fact going to blow the team up, get into the lottery and dump half of their bench (Korver, Watson and Brewer) along with Deng, does it really make sense to sign Thibs to a long deal? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Mini Ditka wrote: If the Bulls are in fact going to blow the team up, get into the lottery and dump half of their bench (Korver, Watson and Brewer) along with Deng, does it really make sense to sign Thibs to a long deal? You're pathetic. Thibs can coach another 10+ years and has proven to be one of the best coaches in the league. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. Thats not indisputable. The Heat showed they can lose against the Pacers and Celtics. No one knows which Heat team would have shown up. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff?  You stated it like it was fact. Something you chide Scoreheezy for. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
rogers park bryan wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff? You stated it like it was fact. Something you chide Scoreheezy for.  
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
rogers park bryan wrote: You stated it like it was fact. Something you chide Scoreheezy for. I actually have rosters to look at and game film to base that on though. Scorehead will just say something like "That drink sucks." I mean, fine if that's his opinion but he's not even trying to have a discussion there. It's different. Are you in "argue with Kid Cairo" mode today or something? |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
theoretically, with a 100% rose and deng, I think the bulls would've put forth a better effort than OKC, but that didn't happen, and it's not ever gonna happen, and unless the bulls win the lottery next year, they are back in NBA hell. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: You stated it like it was fact. Something you chide Scoreheezy for. I actually have rosters to look at and game film to base that on though. Scorehead will just say something like "That drink sucks." I mean, fine if that's his opinion but he's not even trying to have a discussion there. It's different. Are you in "argue with Kid Cairo" mode today or something? I cant help it that you are wrong a lot. Admit it, you were thinking of the Finals version of the Heat. THAT team was not losing to the Bulls. You didnt think about the Boston and Indiana series when you typed that. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Bulls with a healthy Derrick Rose weren't going to beat the Heat. Sorry. The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible... Kid..... That first statement doesn't seem like there's any room for debate. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff? Why do you think OKC is far better than the Bulls? Nothing about the results of last season or this regular season suggest that. I don't think they are. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
You guys better leave my baby alone. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
FavreFan wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff? Why do you think OKC is far better than the Bulls? Nothing about the results of last season or this regular season suggest that. I don't think they are. They had a head-to-head matchup a few months ago where OKC absolutely blew the Bulls out of the gym. Granted Rose didn't play but that kinda goes with my main point: The Bulls are one of the few true "one-man" teams in the upper echelon of the NBA. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
spmack wrote: You guys better leave my baby alone.  Lordy...
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: FavreFan wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Of course it's not indisputible, but I think when you look at how Miami dismantled an OKC team that is far better than the Bulls, you could see how I'd make that claim. Why do you always act as if I'm coming out of left field with stuff? Why do you think OKC is far better than the Bulls? Nothing about the results of last season or this regular season suggest that. I don't think they are. They had a head-to-head matchup a few months ago where OKC absolutely blew the Bulls out of the gym. Granted Rose didn't play but that kinda goes with my main point: The Bulls are one of the few true "one-man" teams in the upper echelon of the NBA. So you'd agree if Rose was able to come back at the same level the teams are pretty even? |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
FavreFan wrote: So you'd agree if Rose was able to come back at the same level the teams are pretty even? No, not at all. I'm saying that OKC has more quality role-players surrounding their stars than the Bulls do. Even with Derrick Rose healthy, he still has to max out and pretty much break his back in order for the Bulls to beat teams. Durant and Westbrook don't have to do that. They have enough of a supporting cast where other guys have been able to give a lift when Westbrook or Durant aren't playing well. Derrick Rose doesn't have that luxury. That's what I mean by "one-man team". The current Bulls epitomize that phrase more than any other elite team that I can remember. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
If Korver played like Mike Martin AND the Bulls were healthy,they could have beaten the Heat. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
jimmypasta wrote: If Korver played like Mike Martin AND the Bulls were healthy,they could have beaten the Heat. Could've, yes. But still unlikely. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It Sucks to Be A Bulls Fan |
jimmypasta wrote: If Korver played like Mike Martin AND the Bulls were healthy,they could have beaten the Heat. Who is Mike Martin? If you are talking about Mike Miller, that guy blows. Yes, I know he was 7-8 last night, and had one of the greatest reserve performances in finals history, but that guy's career is finished. He can barely get up and down the court. He will probably turn this fantastic performance into another big contract that whoever he signs with definitely regret. |
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