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Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:28 pm ]
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It's getting out of hand. He's crossing several lines and apparently getting away with it. Can't watch with him, can't root with him, can't win with him. Can't do it. I'm offering Kid's Bulls fandom and a fan to be named later for Hawger's fandom. Let me know KS.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:32 pm ]
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It's the reason the Bulls have struggled. They feed off of the collective positive energy of the fans. Kid Cairo's negativity has adversely affected this team and I think he should pay.

Nazr Mohammed and Nate Robinson are gonna git you sucka.

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:45 pm ]
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That is just how Kid rolls as a fan. He does it with the Sox. He does it with the Bulls. The first sign of something bad happening and he abandons ship.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:01 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
It's the reason the Bulls have struggled. They feed off of the collective positive energy of the fans. Kid Cairo's negativity has adversely affected this team and I think he should pay.

So the Bulls are kind of like Santa's sleigh in Elf. Maybe Kid needs to join in when the fans sing "We Will Rock You"...or at least give a shout during "Rock N Roll Part II".

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:41 am ]
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I knew someone would understand.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:56 am ]
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I have a no trade contract.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:18 am ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
He's been sucking up to Walt Williams Neck and even went so far as to say he never had a problem with Walt.

No. I said "I never wanted beef with him." That's true. I didn't go looking for trouble with him. He picked an argument with me and I responded.


Keeping Score wrote:
Weezy was dying the other day and Kid didn't say a peep.

I know this sounds bad, but I just don't really care about him.



Keeping Score wrote:
And dare I say that even Mini Ditka is suddenly making more sense than young Cairo.

You can say it, but that doesn't make it true.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:19 am ]
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It's like y'all have been watching a different Bulls team since January than I have.

Author:  Bucky Chris [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:25 am ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
It's like y'all have been watching a different Bulls team since January than I have.


I'm 100% with you. This team is unwatchable at this point, and I'm not even sure they'd be contenders with a healthy DRose. For me, I've pretty much given up following until Rose comes back. And even then, can't see them competing with the top teams in the East.

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:36 pm ]
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I don't get all the negativity on the Bulls team. Without Derrick and all their players healthy they as good or better than everyone in the East except for Miami and possibly Indiana. In the West they are better than everyone in the West except for the top 5 seeds and Houston has given them problems.

The Bulls recent problems have been due to Hinrich, Gibson and Hamilton not playing. Not to mention that they played just about every good team in the league in February and most of them on the road. The reason why the Bulls struggle is that they do not have the offensive firepower to hang with a lot of the Western Conference teams and Boozer and Robinson play poor defense. If the Bulls are going to beat any playoff teams they have to do it by playing solid defense, rebounding, passing the ball on offense and rebounding offensively. They have to keep the score low and they have to grind out the games.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:44 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
The reason why the Bulls struggle is that they do not have the offensive firepower to hang with a lot of the Western Conference teams

Correct. And that doesn't change with Derrick Rose in the lineup either.


Mini Ditka wrote:
If the Bulls are going to beat any playoff teams they have to do it by playing solid defense, rebounding, passing the ball on offense and rebounding offensively. They have to keep the score low and they have to grind out the games.

Correct, and that kind of basketball does not result in playoff series wins. The only reason they won two series in 2011 is because, and I'm actually pretty sick of saying this, THEY HAD A BETTER SUPPORTING CAST TWO YEARS AGO.

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:00 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Correct, and that kind of basketball does not result in playoff series wins. The only reason they won two series in 2011 is because, and I'm actually pretty sick of saying this, THEY HAD A BETTER SUPPORTING CAST TWO YEARS AGO.


I kind of think that Boston grinded out a couple series last year and was one game from the Finals.

I'm willing to give you slightly better because they don't have Asik anymore and his defense at the end of games was very important. Hamilton is better than Bogans. Hinrich is a better backup point guard in terms of defense and running the offense than CJ Watson and all the other guys are pretty comparable. The big thing is the Bulls don't know what they can do in the playoffs because Rose isn't on the court. If he's back and can play even 80 percent they'll probably go to the Eastern Conference Finals. If he's not back they may get there anyway if they don't end up as a 4/5 or 8 seed.

Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:04 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
Hamilton is better than Bogans.

Wrong.

What has Hamilton showed in nearly two seasons here besides proving that he is completely washed up? At least Bogans could get on the court, provide solid D, and knock down the occiasional 3.

Mini Ditka wrote:
Hinrich is a better backup point guard in terms of defense and running the offense than CJ Watson

Wrong again.

Hinrich is made of glass.

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:10 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
Hamilton is better than Bogans.

Wrong.

What has Hamilton showed in nearly two seasons here besides proving that he is completely washed up? At least Bogans could get on the court, provide solid D, and knock down the occiasional 3.

Mini Ditka wrote:
Hinrich is a better backup point guard in terms of defense and running the offense than CJ Watson

Wrong again.

Hinrich is made of glass.


It doesn't really matter if they're hurt during the regular season as long as they can play in the playoffs.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:11 pm ]
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C.J. is better at this point in all phases than Hinrich. This isn't 2005. Kirk was a good player in 2005. In 2013, C.J. Watson is a better player.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:05 pm ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
In terms of being a "decent team", I think the Bulls have done an OUTSTANDING job despite these games missed due to injury:

65 Derrick Rose
21 Kirk Hinrich
20 Richard Hamilton
09 Taj Gibson
05 Luol Deng
04 Joakim Noah
03 Carlos Boozer


if i put my schtick aside, i completely agree. thibs is the best coach in the league, without question, when you look at what he continually has to work with. especially this year.

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:20 pm ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
Weezy was dying the other day and Kid didn't say a peep.



:lol:

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:52 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
He's been sucking up to Walt Williams Neck and even went so far as to say he never had a problem with Walt.

No. I said "I never wanted beef with him." That's true. I didn't go looking for trouble with him. He picked an argument with me and I responded.


Keeping Score wrote:
Weezy was dying the other day and Kid didn't say a peep.

I know this sounds bad, but I just don't really care about him.
He did say he wanted a sausage with me....how the fuck is he betting me in the tourney????



Keeping Score wrote:
And dare I say that even Mini Ditka is suddenly making more sense than young Cairo.

You can say it, but that doesn't make it true.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:55 pm ]
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Walt, you're alright with me.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:07 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Walt, you're alright with me.

But you're not with me.....you're a blowhard
Detriot won't win another game...oh I wasn't serious...I hope you and your peeps beat the fuck out of me in the tourney....cause for you thats an achievement( feel free to coment on punctuation and spelling you get off on that :D )

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:23 pm ]
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I almost voted for you.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
Weezy was dying the other day and Kid didn't say a peep.



:lol:

I felt weird when that was going on

My thoughts were like BigFans

I'm sorry?

That's a shame?

Returning to his home planet?

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:47 pm ]
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Bulls got f'd in the A by the officials tonight.

Author:  KDdidit [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:55 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Bulls got f'd in the A by the officials tonight.

Probably influenced by a certain poster's negativity.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:59 pm ]
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KDdidit wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Bulls got f'd in the A by the officials tonight.

Probably influenced by a certain poster's negativity.


Definitely.

It's all Kid's fault.

Author:  Mini Ditka [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:26 pm ]
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What bothers me is when the officials review a play and they still get it wrong. That was a fantastic tip by Noah and it's a shame that it didn't count.

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:30 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
The reason why the Bulls struggle is that they do not have the offensive firepower to hang with a lot of the Western Conference teams

Correct. And that doesn't change with Derrick Rose in the lineup either.


Mini Ditka wrote:
If the Bulls are going to beat any playoff teams they have to do it by playing solid defense, rebounding, passing the ball on offense and rebounding offensively. They have to keep the score low and they have to grind out the games.

Correct, and that kind of basketball does not result in playoff series wins. The only reason they won two series in 2011 is because, and I'm actually pretty sick of saying this, THEY HAD A BETTER SUPPORTING CAST TWO YEARS AGO.

How can you say that type of basketball doesn't win playoff series? The Mavs won a title in 2011 playing that way. Ditto Celtics in 2008. Pistons in 2004. The Spurs in '99, '03, '05, and '07. You win playoff games by rebounding, playing great team defense, and making a few clutch shots. If offensive firepower was the key to winning in the playoffs the SSOL Suns wouldn't be ringless.

Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:50 pm ]
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This is some bullshit.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:56 pm ]
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Image

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:51 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
How can you say that type of basketball doesn't win playoff series? The Mavs won a title in 2011 playing that way. Ditto Celtics in 2008. Pistons in 2004. The Spurs in '99, '03, '05, and '07. You win playoff games by rebounding, playing great team defense, and making a few clutch shots. If offensive firepower was the key to winning in the playoffs the SSOL Suns wouldn't be ringless.

The difference Farvio, is that of all those teams you mentioned, they all had one thing in common: they could get baskets when they needed. Quite simply in a playoff series when the other team is clamping down defensively, there are 54 seconds in the 4th quarter, you're down two scores, and Derrick Rose is being double-teamed, how do you respond offensively? That's what I'm talking about.

Those Spurs could ride Ginobili or Horry or Parker's offense. Back in '04, Rip Hamilton and Chauncey still had the ability to take over games offensively. The '08 Celtics had Paul Pierce playing out of his damn mind, and Garnett still had an all-around offensive game too, not to mention Ray Allen's shooting. The 2011 Mavs had Dirk and Jason Terry, who was the second most important player on that team.

What I'm saying is, offensively, the Bulls still only have Derrick Rose and....?

Yeah, you can't win a title like that. Sorry. Eventually you have to put the ball in the basket.

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