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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
W&S referenced a proposed trade in which the Bulls would give up Butler, Mirotic, Boozer & the Bobcats pick for Kevin Love? Would you do it? |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Well, preposed by Bill Simmons |
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| Author: | Drop In [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
No |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I'd say yes but I don't think Minnesota would do it. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
He doesn't wear the full compression pants/elbow sleeves suit does he? |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Yes please. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Without blinking, but they wouldn't. |
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| Author: | cpguy [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Would not. Love is always hurt and I like upside of Butler/Mirotic. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I think you give up whatever you need to in order to get an impact player, but I don't know much about Love. Does anyone know if he is in the same league as second-tier impact/star players like Westbrook, Anthony, or even Rose? I know he puts up insane numbers, but since I don't watch him I don't know if those numbers are really indicative of super stud status. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
leashyourkids wrote: Without blinking, but they wouldn't. Precisely |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
butler is a stud. the guys mentality alone is going to keep him playing, and hes just big enough for the nba so i think thats a pretty valuable piece right there, even if superficially he doesnt seem like it. that bobcats pick is pure gold. fuck that, its a diamond with a ball of gold in the middle. kevin love is not a sure thing. take out butler or the pick and i would do the trade. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
IkeSouth wrote: take out butler or the pick and i would do the trade. Agreed on Butler. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I would do that trade in a second. Stars win in this league. Not just good pieces like Jimmy Butler. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
rogers park bryan wrote: I would do that trade in a second. Stars win in this league. Not just good pieces like Jimmy Butler. I agree. I used to feel the other way, but after watching the Heat dominate the previous 3 seasons, it shows that a bench doesn't really matter. You can just fill in with cagey veterans as long as you have your team with a couple stars. PF-Love SF-Deng C-Noah SG- ? PG-Rose Bench - Veteran filler Yes please. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I'm convinced Butler can be that starting 2 guard. I'd be more willing to include Deng in that trade, as he's broken down. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I maybe overreacting after years of Paxson reportedly turning down deals for stars because he fell in love with his role players. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I'm convinced Butler can be that starting 2 guard. I'd be more willing to include Deng in that trade, as he's broken down. I wouldn't say he is broken down, but I would agree that moving Deng at this point in his career is the better option. The only problem would be that the Bulls would have to take back another big contract in the deal. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
I'll take Chase Budinger off their hands. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Has ANYthing resembling a Simmons trade ever happened? He's like Sam Smith for new generation |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
You do that trade, and you do it quickly. I'm a fan of Jimmy Buckets, but I'd love to see the Bulls front office "go for it" at least once in my lifetime. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: You do that trade, and you do it quickly. I'm a fan of Jimmy Buckets, but I'd love to see the Bulls front office "go for it" at least once in my lifetime. Unless you are 15 years old or younger, you might wanna rephrase that |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: You do that trade, and you do it quickly. I'm a fan of Jimmy Buckets, but I'd love to see the Bulls front office "go for it" at least once in my lifetime. Unless you are 15 years old or younger, you might wanna rephrase that Are you referring to Dennis Rodman? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: You do that trade, and you do it quickly. I'm a fan of Jimmy Buckets, but I'd love to see the Bulls front office "go for it" at least once in my lifetime. Unless you are 15 years old or younger, you might wanna rephrase that Are you referring to Dennis Rodman? That and every other move they made that led to winning 6 titles in 8 years. You think they werent "going for it"? |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
He didn't word it as such, but I believe he was talking about the post-championship regime. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: He didn't word it as such, but I believe he was talking about the post-championship regime. Partially. The Bulls drafted Michael Jordan. They then traded for Scottie Pippen after the Draft. Low-and-behold, they become two of the greatest players of all time. Possibly the best duo ever. The addition of other players around those two was secondary. So, no, I don't believe the Bulls "went for it" during that period because they didn't have to. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Technically they did go for it in 2010 when they cleared cap space to sign LeBron and one more superstar. They just failed. They also failed spectacularly in 2000 when they swung and missed on UFAs Tim Duncan and Tracy McGrady. But we have not seen a major trade that would qualify as "going for it," which is what any trade for a star player in his prime would be. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
veganfan21 wrote: Technically they did go for it in 2010 when they cleared cap space to sign LeBron and one more superstar. They just failed. They also failed spectacularly in 2000 when they swung and missed on UFAs Tim Duncan and Tracy McGrady. But we have not seen a major trade that would qualify as "going for it," which is what any trade for a star player in his prime would be. I can agree with that. They tried and they failed. Not entirely their fault. However, I don't think anyone would disagree that the Bulls' Front Office has been known to be "tight" with their wallet. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: So, no, I don't believe the Bulls "went for it" during that period because they didn't have to. They acquired new pieces each year that helped win titles. Cartwright, Kukoc, Brian Williams, Rodman, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper Of course they went for it |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: So, no, I don't believe the Bulls "went for it" during that period because they didn't have to. They acquired new pieces each year that helped win titles. Cartwright, Kukoc, Brian Williams, Rodman, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper Of course they went for it And the Rodman move was a huge gamble at the time. Nobody wanted him. If that deal would have ended up going south for the bulls, they don't win all of the second three peat. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls trade for Kevin Love? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Cartwright, Kukoc, Brian Williams, Rodman, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper Of course they went for it I disagree. With the possible exception of Rodman, I wouldn't call any of those players a star-caliber player that was being heavily recruited by other teams at the time. They just needed to add players around Jordan and Pippen. Today's Bulls team doesn't have the luxury. |
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