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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Time for D to take Reggie, BJ, Adidas and the rest of his crew to LA where he wants to be. So, for D rose, what will you get? I think LA would give a 1st rounder next year. Not sure if contingent picks can be traded, but will take a 1st rounded in 2015 if they make the lakers make the playoffs in 2014. Just thinking LA because they will overpay for a star...even an injured one...See D Howard Just dont tell me he is untradeable, so what deal would you take? |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
dude... youre so 10 minutes ago. rose is coming back 2nd round, and its been proven he will dominate lebron because there is no tape on rose. we are being positive now, no more bashing our leader. this is the internet, you need to keep up. its your board at that... |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
There is no package the Lakers could put together that would make me trade Rose. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:44 pm ] |
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always a good idea to sell low.... |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:45 pm ] |
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Kobe and a time machine to take him back ten years. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Jurko wrote: Send him to Milwaukee for Brandon Jennings.
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Seeing as you need two super stars to win the NBA Championship, it seems silly to trade away the only one they have. It is yet to be determined if a healthy Rose with the Bulls complement of all effort guys and depth could take out a team like Miami. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
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For real. Gasol and their next 5 1st round picks? Maybe. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:47 pm ] |
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Maybe they can trade for Jerry Buss' frozen brain to implant into JR. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
denisdman wrote: Seeing as you need two super stars to win the NBA Championship, it seems silly to trade away the only one they have. It is yet to be determined if a healthy Rose with the Bulls complement of all effort guys and depth could take out a team like Miami. I agree on not trading him, but your last sentence was disproved in the 2011 Playoffs. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: denisdman wrote: Seeing as you need two super stars to win the NBA Championship, it seems silly to trade away the only one they have. It is yet to be determined if a healthy Rose with the Bulls complement of all effort guys and depth could take out a team like Miami. I agree on not trading him, but your last sentence was disproved in the 2011 Playoffs. Like when Michael and Scottie were proven unable to beat the Pistons? |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
rogers park bryan wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: denisdman wrote: Seeing as you need two super stars to win the NBA Championship, it seems silly to trade away the only one they have. It is yet to be determined if a healthy Rose with the Bulls complement of all effort guys and depth could take out a team like Miami. I agree on not trading him, but your last sentence was disproved in the 2011 Playoffs. Like when Michael and Scottie were proven unable to beat the Pistons? As soon as I find a reasonable counter argument, I'll give you one. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Where is Shakes to say this is the dumbest thread post ever? |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: denisdman wrote: Seeing as you need two super stars to win the NBA Championship, it seems silly to trade away the only one they have. It is yet to be determined if a healthy Rose with the Bulls complement of all effort guys and depth could take out a team like Miami. I agree on not trading him, but your last sentence was disproved in the 2011 Playoffs. And NFL teams win Super Bowls without a great QB too. It just isn't the formula that is likely to be successful. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I agree on not trading him, but your last sentence was disproved in the 2011 Playoffs. Going back 20 years, I think there are definitely two, and arguably three, teams that won it all with either one or no "superstars." Spurs - 1999 (arguable) Pistons - 2003 Mavs - 2011 |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
tim duncan and the tall ugly german are stars |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
IkeSouth wrote: tim duncan and the tall ugly german are stars No doubt, but I meant one or none stars since an argument was made that two are needed. Here's a breakdown I did during an email debate with some friends: Stars: Cannot carry a franchise alone but clearly unique talents (e.g. Melo, Pippen, Pierce) Superstars: Unstoppable, franchise changing beasts Semi-stars: Flawed, but a bit more useful than the average NBA player. A tier below "stars." (e.g. Monta Ellis, Iggy, Joe Johnson) 2012: Heat: James (superstar), Wade, Bosh (stars) 2011: Mavs Dirk (superstar), Terry, Kidd (semi-stars) 2010: Lakers: Kobe (superstar), Bynum, Gasol (stars), Odom (star) 2009: Lakers: Kobe (superstar), Gasol, Odom (star) 2008: Celtics: Allen, Pierce, Garnett (stars) 2007: Spurs: Duncan (superstar), Parker, Ginobli (stars) 2006: Heat: Wade (superstar), Shaq (star) 2005: Spurs: Duncan (superstar), Parker, Ginobli (stars) 2004: Pistons: Billups, R. Wallace (stars), Hamilton (semi-star) 2003: Spurs Duncan (superstar), Parker, Ginobli (stars) 2002: Lakers: Kobe, Shaq (superstars) |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
That's all I was saying, you need to have two. It can be done with one, but it is not the usual case. To give up on the only one we have is silly. Everything should be done to acquire another. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
2012 D. Wade is still a "superstar". |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:07 pm ] |
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Krazy Ivan wrote: 2012 D. Wade is still a "superstar". Tough call. He's clearly not the 2006 version, and I don't think he can carry a franchise like he used to. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
I just dont have him as an untouchable...as many do... But being over a YEAR now...and appears to be no date set to play....if you dont start thinking about it, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB. If he does just come back as if GOD (AKA ADIDAS) Intervenes, it is really just such a stroke move on his part to allow all these other people to play him like a puppet. And what if he isnt ready next season....are we selling low then? Yes, I know it is a LOW probability....but I am pretty sure I can find the majority of people that said he will play this season. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
bigfan wrote: I just dont have him as an untouchable...as many do... But being over a YEAR now...and appears to be no date set to play....if you dont start thinking about it, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB. If he does just come back as if GOD (AKA ADIDAS) Intervenes, it is really just such a stroke move on his part to allow all these other people to play him like a puppet. And what if he isnt ready next season....are we selling low then? Yes, I know it is a LOW probability....but I am pretty sure I can find the majority of people that said he will play this season. I don't know if anyone is considering him to be untouchable for the sake of being untouchable. For me, it's about getting equal or greater value back in a hypothetical trade. Assuming he's healthy, who would bring back equal or greater value in a trade? Irving? Westbrook? I'm with denisdman on this one: find a star to pair with Rose. If GarPax can't figure out how to make the Bulls a legit contender during Rose's current contract, then they should be let go. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Krazy Ivan wrote: 2012 D. Wade is still a "superstar". Might not be if the refs didn't treat him as one. |
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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
Rose has a large contract and if continues to drive to the hole he may be injured for a good portion of the remaining years on the contract. If you trade him to the Lakers you need to get another team involved. You need one or two good players in return, luxury tax relief and some solid no. 1 picks. If anything Thibs has shown that he is the right coach to win a championship if he can get a couple star players who can defend and score at will. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
I actually think rose is coming back next round. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: D Rose Trade Scenarios |
bigfan wrote: Time for D to take Reggie, BJ, Adidas and the rest of his crew to LA where he wants to be. So, for D rose, what will you get? I think LA would give a 1st rounder next year. Not sure if contingent picks can be traded, but will take a 1st rounded in 2015 if they make the lakers make the playoffs in 2014. Just thinking LA because they will overpay for a star...even an injured one...See D Howard Just dont tell me he is untradeable, so what deal would you take? Just a thought! |
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