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Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:48 pm ]
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Sounds like a good pick. I'll take it.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:52 pm ]
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I guess the guy didn't even get invited to the draft!

Author:  Nas [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:59 pm ]
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Great shooter.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:04 pm ]
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Steve Alford guy...

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:07 pm ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
Seems like a great pick from the little I have heard and researched.

Hear and research more, then report back.

Author:  beni hanna [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:17 pm ]
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Gar and his land of enchantment connection. Bad in the NCAA tournament but good in other lobo games. Not sold on this choice. I look at this as a head case choice. Damn. He couldn't create a shot against Harvard. Say it ain't so...

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:25 pm ]
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Liked others better but this area of the draft is kind of the bulls wheelhouse

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:30 pm ]
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Should have gone Glen Rice Jr.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:49 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Should have gone Glen Rice Jr.

Rice is not 1st round material. He's worth a flyer in the 2nd though.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:57 pm ]
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Where are you guys getting the Eddie Robinson comparison? Do you mean Robinson as in someone without a true position, or as in somewhat of a head case?

I don't know anything about the guy, but from what I'm reading he's a guy who can shoot but not drive to the rim. I know something Conns posted in a different thread suggested this guy can be a Deng backup, but what if the Bulls are hoping to develop this guy to the point where they can trade Deng and have Snell take Butler's spot on the bench?

This Bullets blog post I'm reading seems pretty down on him. I'll past an excerpt here:

Quote:
Pro potential/Wizards fit: Snell's game reminds me a lot of a player who is already a Washington Wizard: Martell Webster. Similar to Webster, Snell's a rangy shooting specialist who can excel in situations in which his role is to make open three point shots and play passable, if not elite defense.

The problem is, he's just not that good.

While Snell's shooting and length are good, they're far from great. His poor athletic indicators and relatively-advanced age for a rookie don't bode well for his future. While he should get a close look from a number of teams due to how in demand his skillset is, he's unlikely to be anything more than a fringe player unless he shows the ability to contribute in other areas.

Even his vaunted shooting, which is a skill that should translate to the next level, is dependent on his ability to round out his game. There's no reason for defenders to not close out aggressively every time the ball swings to him and that's going to make it far more difficult for him to crack the 40-percent barrier that tends to separate the truly valued shooters from the replaceable ones.

Can he do it? Sure, and he could be a decent value pick if Washington can get him in the middle of the second round. That said, this is the part of the draft where simply making a team as a 12th man can be considered a success. Snell might be able to pull that off, but is it really worth using a roster spot on him when there should be low-cost veteran alternatives that might be better players on day one?


http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/6/7/ ... draft-2013

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:02 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Should have gone Glen Rice Jr.

Rice is not 1st round material. He's worth a flyer in the 2nd though.


He's a troubled talent.

But Snell seems like a pretty good pick.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:05 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Where are you guys getting the Eddie Robinson comparison? Do you mean Robinson as in someone without a true position, or as in somewhat of a head case?

I don't know anything about the guy, but from what I'm reading he's a guy who can shoot but not drive to the rim. I know something Conns posted in a different thread suggested this guy can be a Deng backup, but what if the Bulls are hoping to develop this guy to the point where they can trade Deng and have Snell take Butler's spot on the bench?

This Bullets blog post I'm reading seems pretty down on him. I'll past an excerpt here:

Quote:
Pro potential/Wizards fit: Snell's game reminds me a lot of a player who is already a Washington Wizard: Martell Webster. Similar to Webster, Snell's a rangy shooting specialist who can excel in situations in which his role is to make open three point shots and play passable, if not elite defense.

The problem is, he's just not that good.

While Snell's shooting and length are good, they're far from great. His poor athletic indicators and relatively-advanced age for a rookie don't bode well for his future. While he should get a close look from a number of teams due to how in demand his skillset is, he's unlikely to be anything more than a fringe player unless he shows the ability to contribute in other areas.

Even his vaunted shooting, which is a skill that should translate to the next level, is dependent on his ability to round out his game. There's no reason for defenders to not close out aggressively every time the ball swings to him and that's going to make it far more difficult for him to crack the 40-percent barrier that tends to separate the truly valued shooters from the replaceable ones.

Can he do it? Sure, and he could be a decent value pick if Washington can get him in the middle of the second round. That said, this is the part of the draft where simply making a team as a 12th man can be considered a success. Snell might be able to pull that off, but is it really worth using a roster spot on him when there should be low-cost veteran alternatives that might be better players on day one?


http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/6/7/ ... draft-2013
I have to ask...why would you choose to post a scouting report from a Wizards blog?

Author:  spmack [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:09 pm ]
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Exactly, Zip....and this is who you guys think is the 2013 CSFMB Rookie of the year?

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:14 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
I have to ask...why would you choose to post a scouting report from a Wizards blog?


Well I don't think the blog's team affiliation is relevant. Besides, it's not like this blog is saying anything different than what's posted here...they just took a more negative slant.

I also didn't seek to make a point with the report, I just threw it out there for consideration. I did want to know, however, if you all had anything on the Eddie Robinson comparisons. Was that in regards to talent, or something else?

Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:22 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Steve Alford guy...

Don't tell Bernstein. He can't stand Alford!

As for the Tony Snell pick, it's hard to say if he'll play much right away or if he'll get the dreaded you know what sitting next to HC Tom Thibodeau.

You know...DNP-CD.

Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:29 pm ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
SHARK wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Steve Alford guy...

Don't tell Bernstein. He can't stand Alford!

As for the Tony Snell pick, it's hard to say if he'll play much right away or if he'll get the dreaded you know what sitting next to HC Tom Thibodeau.

You know...DNP-CD.


Did not play - Cross Dresser?

Close. Did not play-Coach's Decision.

Author:  Nas [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:35 pm ]
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He's easily the ugliest player on the roster. He'll be great by 2014.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:14 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Exactly, Zip....and this is who you guys think is the 2013 CSFMB Rookie of the year?



Tough crowd...I'm not sure what you're referring to by ROY, and like I said to Zip, how is the blog's team affiliation relevant? Every team gathers information on every potential draft pick. It's simply player intel that I read, among other pieces, in order to get to know more about Snell.

Author:  spmack [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:26 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
spmack wrote:
Exactly, Zip....and this is who you guys think is the 2013 CSFMB Rookie of the year?



Tough crowd...I'm not sure what you're referring to by ROY, and like I said to Zip, how is the blog's team affiliation relevant? Every team gathers information on every potential draft pick. It's simply player intel that I read, among other pieces, in order to get to know more about Snell.

I was just giving you a little rookie hazing. You're ok to me.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:37 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
I was just giving you a little rookie hazing. You're ok to me.


:oops: :lol:

For what it's worth, I hope Snell develops quickly enough to make management comfortable with dealing Deng. To me, it seems like this move is a precursor to replacing Deng/Butler with Butler/Snell.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:03 am ]
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needs to hit the PEDS dispenser.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:04 am ]
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Develop quickly to replace Deng? This is the 20th pick in what looks like a weak draft that we are talking about. His ceiling is probably not high enough to replace Deng, and it will likely take him three years to even reach that level.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:14 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Develop quickly to replace Deng? This is the 20th pick in what looks like a weak draft that we are talking about. His ceiling is probably not high enough to replace Deng, and it will likely take him three years to even reach that level.


That's exactly right. 3-4 year project at best. dude must have put rocks in his jock when they weighed him at 198.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:17 am ]
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Nazr Muhammed has a big smile on his face this morning.

Author:  veganfan21 [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:21 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Develop quickly to replace Deng? This is the 20th pick in what looks like a weak draft that we are talking about. His ceiling is probably not high enough to replace Deng, and it will likely take him three years to even reach that level.


Did not mean to imply Snell is Deng's replacement. If the reports about Deng being shopped are accurate, then the Bulls most likely believe Butler is Deng's replacement - not Snell.

In drafting Snell, I am wondering if the Bulls are preparing for Deng's departure by restocking the SF position. Of course they could also hold on to all three and go from there.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:23 am ]
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couldn't they have traded down or something? If Phil Emery made this pick, people would be hysterical.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:31 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
couldn't they have traded down or something? If Phil Emery made this pick, people would be hysterical.

Stick to the NFL draft.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:32 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
Seems like a great pick from the little I have heard and researched.

Hear and research more, then report back.

:lol:

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:35 am ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
spmack is the board's biggest shit stirrer. He's also one of the nicest guys here. Not to mention extremely good looking.

C'mon with that shit.

Author:  Bagels [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:01 am ]
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CANDICE BERGEN: Hi, I'm Murphy Brown, you must be my new secretary.

KRAMER: Oh, good morning, Miss Brown.

CANDICE BERGEN: And you are...?

KRAMER: Oh, I'm uh, Steven Snell.

CANDICE BERGEN: Snell. Well, hello, Mr. Snell.

KRAMER: Steven.

CANDICE BERGEN: Steven. Are you familiar with this computer system?

KRAMER: Oh - I'm familiar with it.

CANDICE BERGEN: Steven Snell? I know people...and I have a very good feeling about you. <exits.>

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