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Author: | spanky [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:01 am ] |
Post subject: | So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
Dan Gilbert @cavsdan 6m Welcome @LuolDeng9 to the Cleveland Cavaliers! |
Author: | muman89 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
For Bynum and pick. Bynum will be waived immediately. |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:04 am ] |
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Quote: The Cleveland Cavaliers have agreed to trade Andrew Bynum and a draft pick to the Chicago Bulls for forward Luol Deng, sources told ESPN.com.
The deal is expected to be completed on Tuesday morning when the teams have a conference call with the league office. Bynum is expected to be released by 5 p.m. on Tuesday before the second half of his $12.3 million contract becomes guaranteed. The deal will save the Bulls more than $15 million in salary and luxury taxes, taking them below the salary-cap threshold. In addition, the Cavs will send the Bulls a first round pick owed to them by the Sacramento Kings that is top 10 protected in the next two drafts. The Cavs had discussions for more than a week with the Los Angeles Lakers involving in a deal for Pau Gasol but could not come to an agreement. The Cavs also had talks about trading Bynum's contract to the Utah Jazz for Richard Jefferson. |
Author: | muman89 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
Bulls get a lot back. They get Kings 1st rounder in 2014, owned by Cavs. Right to swap 1st rounders in 20-5, and two 2nd round picks. |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:08 am ] |
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Quote: In exchange for Deng, the Cavs send Chicago Bynum, Cleveland’s right to the Sacramento King’s first round draft pick conveyed in a June 30, 2011 deal, the right for Chicago to swap its own 2015 first round draft pick with the Cavs own 2015 first round draft pick (only in the case that the Cleveland 2015 first round draft pick is between 15 and 30) and the Portland Trail Blazer’s 2015 and 2016 second round draft picks acquired from the Trail Blazers via 2013 draft night trade.
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Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:09 am ] |
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As a bandwagon Bulls fan this kinda stinks. I wanted to see this crew give the Heat more than one shot. Damn injuries. Oh well. Well Jerry at least gets to save a lot of money in this deal. |
Author: | spanky [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
muman89 wrote: Bulls get a lot back. They get Kings 1st rounder in 2014, owned by Cavs. Right to swap 1st rounders in 20-5, and two 2nd round picks. This is the amazing thing about NBA trades. Essentially the Bullsjust saved $15M in cap space (which is the ultimate goal), gave away a good player, but got a shit load of picks in return also. This doesn't happen in any other league. |
Author: | sinicalypse [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
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Author: | sinicalypse [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
you know, knowing my luck andrew bynum will suit up for the bulls and easily be the best center in the eastern conference. i'll call the resulting clusterfuck / 2017 2nd round pick "the curse of LOLDENG" |
Author: | spanky [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:15 am ] |
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sinicalypse wrote: you know, knowing my luck andrew bynum will suit up for the bulls and easily be the best center in the eastern conference. i'll call the resulting clusterfuck / 2017 2nd round pick "the curse of LOLDENG" I'm not a huge Bulls guy, but I will bet you a (1) Mountain Dew that Bynum does NOT suit up for the Bulls this year. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
spanky wrote: muman89 wrote: Bulls get a lot back. They get Kings 1st rounder in 2014, owned by Cavs. Right to swap 1st rounders in 20-5, and two 2nd round picks. This is the amazing thing about NBA trades. Essentially the Bullsjust saved $15M in cap space (which is the ultimate goal), gave away a good player, but got a shit load of picks in return also. This doesn't happen in any other league. Riggen for Wiggins Time. |
Author: | donspiracy [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:16 am ] |
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Does this make my Luol Deng bobblehead go up or down in value??? |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:19 am ] |
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So the Bulls will have unprotected picks for the Kings and Bobcats in 2016? |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:22 am ] |
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I can't believe they got Reggie Rose's permission to do this ... |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:23 am ] |
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So when will the Bulls get this 1st round pick? Seems they are always getting picks that no one ever seems to know when they will actually happen |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
RFDC wrote: So when will the Bulls get this 1st round pick? Seems they are always getting picks that no one ever seems to know when they will actually happen If I am reading this right, if the Kings picks doesnt land outside the top 10 through 2017, it just becomes a second round ick in 2017? That is fucking awful if true. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:33 am ] |
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RFDC wrote: So when will the Bulls get this 1st round pick? Seems they are always getting picks that no one ever seems to know when they will actually happen Oh, that's every NBA team. It's always the right to trade firsts with some team unless they miss the playoffs but not the next year and forget the whole thing if wheat prices go up 20%. |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
We have been hearing about this mystical Charlotte pick for years. Now we can hear about the Sacramento/Clev pick |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
Missing in all this is Bynum got 6 million to play for the heat this year. Maybe he will start trying again for four months, sign a large contract then stop playing again. |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
They are doing everything they can to make sure Thibs doesn't make the playoffs. Good deal. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
Nas wrote: They are doing everything they can to make sure Thibs doesn't make the playoffs. Good deal. Can they amnesty Boozer now or do they have to wait til off season? |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
RFDC wrote: We have been hearing about this mystical Charlotte pick for years. Now we can hear about the Sacramento/Clev pick Bulls hope Charlotte gets the 11th pick this year |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
This trade is bad. The Cavs swap is only if they are not in lottery. The Kings pick only comes if they don't suck sometime in the next four years. |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
conns7901 wrote: Nas wrote: They are doing everything they can to make sure Thibs doesn't make the playoffs. Good deal. Can they amnesty Boozer now or do they have to wait til off season? Offseason |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:39 am ] |
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Quote: The draft pick is lottery-protected next year, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014 and top-10 protected from 2015-17. If the Cavs don't receive the pick by 2017, they will receive a second-round pick. See this stuff makes no fucking sense to me. A first round pick that becomes a second round pick? |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:41 am ] |
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Sam Smith @SamSmithHoops 2m Turns out Bulls and Deng were in contract talks at last minute. Deng turned down $30 million for three, thus convincing Bulls he was leaving |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
RFDC wrote: Quote: The draft pick is lottery-protected next year, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014 and top-10 protected from 2015-17. If the Cavs don't receive the pick by 2017, they will receive a second-round pick. See this stuff makes no fucking sense to me. A first round pick that becomes a second round pick? Is there any chance Gar/Pax was too fucking stupid to realize this? |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
RFDC wrote: Quote: The draft pick is lottery-protected next year, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014 and top-10 protected from 2015-17. If the Cavs don't receive the pick by 2017, they will receive a second-round pick. See this stuff makes no fucking sense to me. A first round pick that becomes a second round pick? The Bulls will get that pick this year or next season at the latest. |
Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: So....Deng traded to Cavs?? |
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Quote: The draft pick is lottery-protected next year, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014 and top-10 protected from 2015-17. If the Cavs don't receive the pick by 2017, they will receive a second-round pick. See this stuff makes no fucking sense to me. A first round pick that becomes a second round pick? The Bulls will get that pick this year or next season at the latest. how's that? |
Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:48 am ] |
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They need to cut Noahs minutes drastically and sit him a lot going forward. Maybe they could sneak into top 8. Though that may take firing Thibbs. |
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