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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Nikola Mirotic |
Cannot play with him, cannot coach with him, cannot win win with him. Can't do it. Until possibly 2015 at the earliest. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
It's too early in the season to say something like that about a rookie. He's gotten better over the past month. Adjusting to a new style of play and in a new country takes time. When you add the schedule and traveling in that it makes it even more difficult to make a quick adjustment. He'll be fine in the 2nd half of the season. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
FavreFan wrote: Cannot play with him, cannot coach with him, cannot win win with him. Can't do it. Until possibly 2015 at the earliest. Is this a shot at Bernstein ? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Nas wrote: It's too early in the season to say something like that about a rookie. He's gotten better over the past month. He's gotten worse. I think eventually he will be a good player. But he's more of a project than many of us thought. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
I have only been able to watch a handful of mins so far this season. The short stretches that I have seen I was impressed with Mirotic. What am I not seeing? What is he doing wrong? |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
It's like he never heard the word DEFENSE. Offense will keep him on the court. Runs very well. Watching him try to front a guy or overplay one side of a post player hurts. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
RFDC wrote: I have only been able to watch a handful of mins so far this season. The short stretches that I have seen I was impressed with Mirotic. What am I not seeing? What is he doing wrong? He can't play defense without fouling and really just can't play defense at all. Isn't ready to score at all in the NBA right now and just generally looks out of place more often than not. Just look at his stats. |
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| Author: | mrgoodkat [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
I will agree that at least last night he was pressing and looked pretty bad. Some of it was just bad bounces. But the pressing tends to happen when you are totally clueless as to what minutes you will play and feel the need to make the most out of whatever you get. McDermott is in the same situation (for the most part) but last night the bounces were going his way. You can sense how disjointed this thing is right now. The Rose thing is a problem. Im not going to be worried about team defense or individual defense until around the break. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
I expect Gasol to get better. He can't continue missing a million layups. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
FavreFan wrote: He can't play defense without fouling and really just can't play defense at all. Isn't ready to score at all in the NBA right now and just generally looks out of place more often than not. Sounds like he would be a great fit at Bears linebacker.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: He can't play defense without fouling and really just can't play defense at all. Isn't ready to score at all in the NBA right now and just generally looks out of place more often than not. Sounds like he would be a great fit at Bears linebacker.Maybe he should give it a shot. He's certainly not an NBA player right now. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
These white rookies are bad. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
immessedup17 wrote: These white rookies are bad. Yeah, my boy James Johnson just embarrassed McDermott. |
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| Author: | Mr. Hernandez [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Hes not so bad. Its gonna take some time to adjust to the league. Has to finish strong at the hoop and also learn how to foul without allowing And-1s. Has the most and 1s against ive ever seen. Gotta hit the weights |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
immessedup17 wrote: These white rookies are bad. edit: One of these white rookies is bad. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2289 ... t-clippers This is some of Mirotic's ROTY competition. He should have this easy. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
PER 100 Possessions #2 in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (13.3 -- tied with Asik and only behind DeAndre Jordan) #40 in Points Per Game (21.0) #20 in Blocks Per Game (2.3) #40 in 3 Point FGs Made (2.5) #23 in Defensive Rating (99 -- highest on the Bulls) #83 Offensive Rating (113) ESPN Hollinger & Real Plus/Minus Stats #36 in Rebounding Rate (16.7 -- tied with Noah and ahead of Kevin Love) #45 in Defensive RPM (defensive impact) Per Game Basis #74 in 3FG% (35.7%) #39 in FT% (81.5%) #71 in 2-Point FG% (49.2%) #21 in TOs (1.0) #68 in True Shooting % (58.0%) |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Mirotic is money. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/bulls-mir ... ng-rookies |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Conns asked me about this. I've liked what I have seen from Mirotic lately, but he wasn't nba ready when he got here and he still is much more of a project player than people want to admit, namely IMU. His progression on the defensive end has been impressive though. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
The problem for Mirotic lately has been Taj Gibson. Mirotic was beginning to creep into the Rookie of the yr. Conversation while Gibson while Gibson was hurt. Since Gibson has been back Mirotic hasn't been the same player. When Mirotic is in the game with Gibson and Brooks he doesn't get the ball. Gibson is a ball stopper particularly when he plays with the second unit. He thinks he is either a first or second option when he is in with the second unit which hampers Mirotic s game. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
Gibson is a much better player than Mirotic. Anyone arguing otherwise isn't being honest. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
FavreFan wrote: Gibson is a much better player than Mirotic. Anyone arguing otherwise isn't being honest. More experienced and more established. He is not more talented. I was worried about Mirotic s ability to guard but he is showing himself to be an adequate defender and he is a better rebounder than I originally thought. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Gibson is a much better player than Mirotic. Anyone arguing otherwise isn't being honest. More experienced and more established. He is not more talented. I was worried about Mirotic s ability to guard but he is showing himself to be an adequate defender and he is a better rebounder than I originally thought. He's one of the best rebounders in the NBA already. Every other facet of his game needs considerable work. I don't know what your statement about talent means. It sounds like the same type of logic that would draft tyrus Thomas over Lamarcus Aldridge. Taj Gibson is better and more talented at playing basketball than Nikola Mirotic is right now. You can't argue with that without being wrong. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
FavreFan wrote: long time guy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Gibson is a much better player than Mirotic. Anyone arguing otherwise isn't being honest. More experienced and more established. He is not more talented. I was worried about Mirotic s ability to guard but he is showing himself to be an adequate defender and he is a better rebounder than I originally thought. He's one of the best rebounders in the NBA already. Every other facet of his game needs considerable work. I don't know what your statement about talent means. It sounds like the same type of logic that would draft tyrus Thomas over Lamarcus Aldridge. Taj Gibson is better and more talented at playing basketball than Nikola Mirotic is right now. You can't argue with that without being wrong. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
He is pretty good when he gets solid minutes. The more he plays, the better he is. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
He plays better when Gibson doesn't play. I'm sure a lot of it has to with increased playing time. I also think that it has to do with some other things as well. He played well the last time Gibson missed time. During that pd he was being considered for Rookie of the yr. The team also played well. Gibson came back and his minutes decreased. I hope Thibs doesn't revert back to this once Gibson returns but something tells me he will. |
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| Author: | America [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
So uh. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nikola Mirotic |
FavreFan wrote: Gibson is a much better player than Mirotic. Anyone arguing otherwise isn't being honest. Who would you rather have at this point? |
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