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Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:26 pm ]
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This has sweep written all over it. Bulls got this.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:01 pm ]
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theyll lose because of this stupid game thread title
Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:14 pm ]
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Given their inconsistent play all year, Bulls in six.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:15 pm ]
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Bulls in 5, the failure to sweep will be used as a reason to fire Thibodeau.
Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:18 pm ]
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The Bulls will essentially have home court this entire series. This won't even be a gentleman's sweep. 4 straight wins by 20 plus or more.
Author:  Hockey Gay [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:38 pm ]
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Hoping for Bucks in 4
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:54 pm ]
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Hockey Gay wrote:
Hoping for Bucks in 4


If for no other reason than to stop dumb Bulls radio talk.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:55 pm ]
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But that will just mean more Bulls talk.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:03 pm ]
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wait, does this mean the bulls got the 3 seed? i could swear if they got 4/5 they were stuck with the wiz, which is a very good thing that they didnt.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:04 pm ]
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Yep, finished in third, a nice prelude to firing one of the league's top coaches.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:12 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Yep, finished in third, a nice prelude to firing one of the league's top coaches.


CH i think you're looking at this the wrong way; just think of all of the wang-whippings that BIG BLACK STUD in cleveland is gonna give out to the rest of the league once the rest of the team is thibbed up and maxed out, and per b&b if you don't like that you don't like basketball.

put thibs in cleveland and make sure he has a proper running mate (there has to be a real reason they got rid of wiggins. i guarantee something crazy happens like KD shows up there) and yeah, he's gonna have a shot at MJ's 6.
Author:  long time guy [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:45 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Yep, finished in third, a nice prelude to firing one of the league's top coaches.


I'm kind of up in the air on the whole Thibs firing thing. On one hand I don't think he should be fired but on the other hand I think the Bulls underachieved. The Bulls only won 10 more games than Boston, despite the fact that Boston gave away their two best players. They also only won 9 more games than Milwaukee. Milwaukee was without 2 starters for most of the yr. Sanders and Parker. They also traded away their best player, at least this yr Brandon Knight. I have serious questions about Thibs and this notion that the Bulls are out of line for firing him may not be as out of line as it appears.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:52 pm ]
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But Rose missed significant time and wasn't very good when he was here. Framing a 50-win season as "ten fewer than Boston" is kind of disingenuous because somebody has to win games in the middle/bottom of the Eastern Conference. I'm pretty impressed with what the Bulls managed to do this year, all things considered.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:16 am ]
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they did as good as they could have given all the injuries

they did good enough as well. like lebron says, "just get us in the playoffs, it doesnt matter how"

and of course, like always, we go nowhere if rose only plays the 1st half. anyone find out why he sat in the 3rd and 4th tonight?

edit- wow, i think he was benched for bad play.... more specifically brooks came out on fire and never cooled off. rose said his knee was a little sore but 'it just wasnt his night'. that doesnt sound like it was his decision to sit..... and that was also my initial thought when i saw him sit. he had a look on his face that you could tell he was a little upset.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:23 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
But Rose missed significant time and wasn't very good when he was here. Framing a 50-win season as "ten fewer than Boston" is kind of disingenuous because somebody has to win games in the middle/bottom of the Eastern Conference. I'm pretty impressed with what the Bulls managed to do this year, all things considered.


They had two all stars even without Rose whereas the other two teams had none. If Thibs is whacked I'm not going to be like what the hell are they doing. The Bulls lost a number of games to inferior teams. This Bulls team has talent even without Rose.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:29 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
But Rose missed significant time and wasn't very good when he was here. Framing a 50-win season as "ten fewer than Boston" is kind of disingenuous because somebody has to win games in the middle/bottom of the Eastern Conference. I'm pretty impressed with what the Bulls managed to do this year, all things considered.



There isn't anyone that would have predicted that the Bulls would have been only nine games better than Milwaukee or 10 games better than Boston at the beginning of the season. You can't just shrug that off as someone had to win those games. While that may be true that doesn't mean it had to be those two teams. There coaches should be commended for the job that they did. Thibs has gotten a pass on a lot of things from fans and the only thing that I am suggesting is that it might not be out of bounds if he was whacked. I'm actually warming to the idea the more I think about it.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:32 am ]
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If you're getting rid of a coach with a record of 255-139, then the onus is on you to supply the coach that is better and available. Fred Hoiberg?
Author:  IkeSouth [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:40 am ]
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thibs is not the best regular season coach, he doesnt cruise at the speed limit

but his way does prepare the young guys for bigger games, and say what you want but look at jimi butler. all those regular season minutes are why hes the player he is.

thibs is a fantastic pressure situation coach. built for the playoffs. he doesnt let his team lose focus and he does make good decisions most of the time.

if the bulls fire him they better bring in popovich or im done as a bulls fan for a few years.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:56 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
If you're getting rid of a coach with a record of 255-139, then the onus is on you to supply the coach that is better and available. Fred Hoiberg?


That is where the difficulty is going to arise. The really good ones were available last yr. Don't know about Hoiberg. I haven't watched enough of him.


Other teams had multiple injuries and still performed well. Houston ,OKC, New Orleans, Toronto are but a few. The two listed above lost players and had a winning record. There is something that they see which has soured them on Thibs. As much as people bash GarPax this yrs team was built to win. They have easily the second best talent in the east. They may be the most talented team in the East. They underperformed and I'm wondering how much of that falls on Thibs.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:07 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
If you're getting rid of a coach with a record of 255-139, then the onus is on you to supply the coach that is better and available. Fred Hoiberg?
That works as long as you don't look at playoff records and results.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:12 am ]
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Anything less than a conference finals appearance should automatically launch Thibs.
Author:  Ron Wolfley [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:23 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
If you're getting rid of a coach with a record of 255-139, then the onus is on you to supply the coach that is better and available. Fred Hoiberg?
That works as long as you don't look at playoff records and results.


It works as long as you consider Thibs went to the Eastern Conference Finals his first year here with Keith Bogans as the starting shooting guard. The best player on the Bulls hasn't played in the playoffs since then.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:37 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Anything less than a conference finals appearance should automatically launch Thibs.

This may prove true and I would support the move if the Bulls look bad while bowing out. That would seem to indicate that the team has had enough of Thibs style and needs a new voice. I liked Collins and Skiles as well for a few years but they needed to go when they did.
Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:37 am ]
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Only ten games better than the Celtics? That is like complaining a baseball team was only 20 games better than someone.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:57 am ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Only ten games better than the Celtics? That is like complaining a baseball team was only 20 games better than someone.


How about 10 games worst than Atlanta? I know I'm sure the board prognosticators saw that one coming a mile away before the season started.
Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:59 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Only ten games better than the Celtics? That is like complaining a baseball team was only 20 games better than someone.


How about 10 games worst than Atlanta? I know I'm sure the board prognosticators saw that one coming a mile away before the season started.


50 wins with all the injuries they had is a good regular season.

Why don't you link the post where you had Atlanta as the one seed?
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:08 am ]
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Here's the schedule for the first round: All games are also shown locally on CSN.

(3) Chicago Bulls vs. (6) Milwaukee Bucks
Game 1 - Sat. April 18, Milwaukee at Chicago, 6:00 PM, ESPN
Game 2 - Mon. April 20, Milwaukee at Chicago, 7:00 PM, TNT
Game 3 - Thu. April 23, Chicago at Milwaukee, 7:00 PM, NBA TV
Game 4 - Sat . April 25, Chicago at Milwaukee, 4:30 PM, TNT
Game 5 *- Mon. April 27, Milwaukee at Chicago, TBD
Game 6 * - Thu. April 30, Chicago at Milwaukee, TBD
Game 7 * - Sat. May 2, Milwaukee at Chicago, TNT
Author:  Brick [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:09 am ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
If you're getting rid of a coach with a record of 255-139, then the onus is on you to supply the coach that is better and available. Fred Hoiberg?
That works as long as you don't look at playoff records and results.


It works as long as you consider Thibs went to the Eastern Conference Finals his first year here with Keith Bogans as the starting shooting guard. The best player on the Bulls hasn't played in the playoffs since then.
Well, I guess if he did that in year one then we should keep him forever!

The fact that people don't understand that the Bulls are simply a try hard regular season team that gets outclassed in the playoffs every year(and Cleveland will do it to them in round two this year) boggles my mind.
Author:  long time guy [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:10 am ]
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conns7901 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Only ten games better than the Celtics? That is like complaining a baseball team was only 20 games better than someone.


How about 10 games worst than Atlanta? I know I'm sure the board prognosticators saw that one coming a mile away before the season started.


50 wins with all the injuries they had is a good regular season.

Why don't you link the post where you had Atlanta as the one seed?


I didn't that's my point. I had Atlanta no higher than a sixth seed. They overachieved. The Bulls underachieved. They lost to a number of teams with sub .500 records all season long. They lost at least twice to Orlando. I will go down the list of teams that they should have easily beat and show you how they should have been better.


I look at teams like OKC which lost last yrs MVP. He played less than thirty games this yr. and they won 45 games. They lost their third best player also. They took guys from perennially losing teams and won 45 games. They play in a tougher conf. also. Houston lost an all star and an assortment of players and finished second in a much tougher conf. Rose participated in 50 games and the Bulls had two other all stars to go alongside him. They also had a solid bench as a compliment.

For me the bloom is rapidly coming off the Thibs rose. His game to game rotations are troubling for one. One game a guy plays 30 min. the next he receives a DNP-CD. I watched how he continuously trotted Hinrich out there though anyone with Vision could see that Hinrich stunk. He jerks Snell around and early on he did the same thing with Mirotic. If they lose to Cleveland second round that won't be an upset because Cleveland is good. I won't hang that series on Thibs unless he does something stupid which costs them dearly. My point is that the Bulls should not have been in a position to have to fight for a third seed in the first place.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:18 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The fact that people don't understand that the Bulls are simply a try hard regular season team that gets outclassed in the playoffs every year(and Cleveland will do it to them in round two this year) boggles my mind.


Doesn't that speak to talent acquisition rather than coaching?
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