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Author: | Reared on the Score [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:33 pm ] |
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that column could've been a Curious Hair parody joint. I merely skimmed and already saw brand-humping, laywers, and 'optics' |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:34 pm ] |
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Author: | MajorKong [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:46 pm ] |
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Between Rose and Dwight Howard they have the market cornered on flaky, weird and uninspiring. |
Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:45 pm ] |
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Morals clauses are common. You would think there might be one. He's not a very good player anymore, mumbles when he speaks. When you can understand what he says, you wish you were not able to and now he's in the mess with the hood rat. What a mess. |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:31 am ] |
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D Rose is like a politician right now, everyone is the home state knows what an idiot he is, but the world still likes him. And I am sure someone will argue this with me, even though its not my theory, Rose has a bit of an asian look and thus he is #2 (I think) in China in shoe sales. You can argue the look, but it sure isnt his play that makes him a celeb in China, so it must be something, although ADIDAS did a nice job of promoting him. D Rose is almost an actor at this point...who can be a good bBall player. We will wait to see if he can be "GREAT" as he still says he is. I would like him to be great again so they can trade him next year. . |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:36 am ] |
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Just this week he picked up the Win for Life endorsement from the lottery |
Author: | bigfan [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:45 am ] |
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he would get a.... " back" |
Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:32 am ] |
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bigfan wrote: D Rose is like a politician right now, everyone is the home state knows what an idiot he is, but the world still likes him. And I am sure someone will argue this with me, even though its not my theory, Rose has a bit of an asian look and thus he is #2 (I think) in China in shoe sales. You can argue the look, but it sure isnt his play that makes him a celeb in China, so it must be something, although ADIDAS did a nice job of promoting him. D Rose is almost an actor at this point...who can be a good bBall player. We will wait to see if he can be "GREAT" as he still says he is. I would like him to be great again so they can trade him next year. . He definitely has an Asian/ African look. Looks like one of those kids that was conceived in Vietnam by a black soldier. |
Author: | polster [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:05 am ] |
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Rose is still a great player at his position when he plays (that's the caveat)... and the alternative to Rose is much worse. The issue with people who BS about sports all day is we live in what have you done for me lately society. At the beginning of the MLB season people were calling for Starlin Castro to be traded as his numbers were down and now he is looking like a world beater and no one is saying anything about replacing or releasing the guy. It seems like we all are Monday morning quarterbacks but sports and any job in general doesn't work that way (maybe in the NFL is does ). Rose is still a marketable player because when he plays he puts up great numbers at his position. If the teams had the Mike North talking points about their players there would not be anyone left on any team! |
Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:13 am ] |
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Kobe Bryant and Derrick Rose have topped the list for best-selling NBA jerseys in China this 2015 season, according to data compiled by the league. Bryant, 36, continues to be popular among Chinese fans, despite his season-ending shoulder injury in January and the Lakers' poor showing this year. Among Chinese fans, Bryant's jersey sells better than even that of LeBron James, the worldwide leader. Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard and Kevin Durant are third, fourth and fifth, respectively, for jersey sales in China. James's jersey comes in at number six on the list. Bryant's teammate Jeremy Lin has the seventh most popular jersey in China, while Tim Duncan's Spurs jersey, Kyrie Irving's Cleveland Cavaliers jersey, and John Wall's Wizards jersey round out the top ten. According to the Chinese Basketball Association, 300 million of China's nearly 1.4 billion citizens play basketball. The NBA is also the most-followed sports league on Chinese social media, with more than 93 million followers on the popular platforms Tencent and Sina. |
Author: | Matches Malone [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:45 am ] |
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The new King of Bulls basketball is Jimmy Butler. Long live the King! |
Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:51 pm ] |
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Matches Malone wrote: The new King of Bulls basketball is Jimmy Butler. Long live the King! Darion Anderson begs to differ. |
Author: | Matches Malone [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:07 pm ] |
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Krazy Ivan wrote: Matches Malone wrote: The new King of Bulls basketball is Jimmy Butler. Long live the King! Darion Anderson begs to differ. Jimmy Butler is the new King of Bulls basketball. Moving on! |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:19 pm ] |
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all day i dream about sex with derrik rose and co. |
Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:43 pm ] |
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polster wrote: Rose is still a great player at his position when he plays (that's the caveat)... Rose is still a marketable player because when he plays he puts up great numbers at his position. I disagree. Let's talk numbers........his FG % was just 40.5% last season. His assist to turnover ratio is amongst the worst in the league for a starting point guard. He had just 251 assists to 161 turnovers. Not even a 2/1 ratio. Chris Paul has a 4.41 assist to turnover ratio. Jimmy Butler had 212 assists and just 93 turnovers, good for a 2.28 assist to turnover ratio. Good point guards like John Wall and Chris Paul, average 10 assists per game. Rose was less than 5 per game. 3 point shooting was supposed to really improve after Rose's time off as he worked on it a lot. He shot just 28% from the 3 point line. Also, he had just 36 steals. His defense is plain lousy. It never was a strength, but it is much worse now. You can fool yourself if you want to, into believing Rose is an elite player still. He is not. He is an undersized shooting guard, who doesn't shoot that well and plays awful defense. |
Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:46 pm ] |
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They haven't pulled his endorsement over his train-running side business because no one knows who he is anymore. When was the last time he played in the NBA? 5 years ago? |
Author: | long time guy [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:22 pm ] |
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Elmhurst Steve wrote: polster wrote: Rose is still a great player at his position when he plays (that's the caveat)... Rose is still a marketable player because when he plays he puts up great numbers at his position. I disagree. Let's talk numbers........his FG % was just 40.5% last season. His assist to turnover ratio is amongst the worst in the league for a starting point guard. He had just 251 assists to 161 turnovers. Not even a 2/1 ratio. Chris Paul has a 4.41 assist to turnover ratio. Jimmy Butler had 212 assists and just 93 turnovers, good for a 2.28 assist to turnover ratio. Good point guards like John Wall and Chris Paul, average 10 assists per game. Rose was less than 5 per game. 3 point shooting was supposed to really improve after Rose's time off as he worked on it a lot. He shot just 28% from the 3 point line. Also, he had just 36 steals. His defense is plain lousy. It never was a strength, but it is much worse now. You can fool yourself if you want to, into believing Rose is an elite player still. He is not. He is an undersized shooting guard, who doesn't shoot that well and plays awful defense. Your assessment is accurate, though I wouldn't equate playing d with steals. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:48 pm ] |
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Fact is he won mvp as the youngest player ever and lebron didnt have a bad year that year.... Rose didnt put up record numbers but he WAS unguardable. The window for greatness isnt closed even if its only cracked open at this point. We will never see "that guy" again, but we might easily get a guy who can produce more because he should play a lot smarter. He needs to make more shots tho. |
Author: | Darkside [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:33 pm ] |
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IkeSouth wrote: Fact is he won mvp as the youngest player ever and lebron didnt have a bad year that year.... Rose didnt put up record numbers but he WAS unguardable. The window for greatness isnt closed even if its only cracked open at this point. We will never see "that guy" again, but we might easily get a guy who can produce more because he should play a lot smarter. He needs to make more shots tho. You'll never see "that guy" again. He's got two problems... he's very, very full of himself and he is stupid as fuck and has bad people around him. He will go down as the worst waste of talent in NBA history. Like an NBA Prior. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:01 pm ] |
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I doubt as wprst ever... At least he made a league record. But i agree... Stupid as fuck. |
Author: | Colonel Angus [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:00 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: You'll never see "that guy" again. He's got two problems... he's very, very full of himself and he is stupid as fuck and has bad people around him. He will go down as the worst waste of talent in NBA history. Like an NBA Prior. An NBA prior to what? sorry |
Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:30 am ] |
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long time guy wrote: Elmhurst Steve wrote: polster wrote: Rose is still a great player at his position when he plays (that's the caveat)... Rose is still a marketable player because when he plays he puts up great numbers at his position. I disagree. Let's talk numbers........his FG % was just 40.5% last season. His assist to turnover ratio is amongst the worst in the league for a starting point guard. He had just 251 assists to 161 turnovers. Not even a 2/1 ratio. Chris Paul has a 4.41 assist to turnover ratio. Jimmy Butler had 212 assists and just 93 turnovers, good for a 2.28 assist to turnover ratio. Good point guards like John Wall and Chris Paul, average 10 assists per game. Rose was less than 5 per game. 3 point shooting was supposed to really improve after Rose's time off as he worked on it a lot. He shot just 28% from the 3 point line. Also, he had just 36 steals. His defense is plain lousy. It never was a strength, but it is much worse now. You can fool yourself if you want to, into believing Rose is an elite player still. He is not. He is an undersized shooting guard, who doesn't shoot that well and plays awful defense. Your assessment is accurate, though I wouldn't equate playing d with steals. You are correct that one does not necessarily have a lot to do with the other. But as a point guard, you guard the guy bringing up the ball and get a lot of opportunity to steal the ball either off the dribble (Gary Payton was so good at this) as well as off passes. He can't (or won't bother to try to) keep in front of the guy he's defending, much less steal the ball. Even before his injuries, he played lousy defense. It was why Vinny DelNegro benched him late in some games. Fans were furious that he benched their best offensive player in a crucial point in the game like that. I applauded it, as I understood it was because he was playing lazy on defense and the coach was sending a message. I am looking forward to Rose moving on. I hope the Bulls don't even consider signing him to an extension. Doesn't shoot well, plays lousy defense and has a horrible assist to turnover ratio.....let him go. |
Author: | Matches Malone [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:46 am ] |
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Darkside wrote: You'll never see "that guy" again. He's got two problems... he's very, very full of himself and he is stupid as fuck and has bad people around him. He will go down as the worst waste of talent in NBA history. Like an NBA Prior. Len Bias might take that title. Dude was a beast. Just couldn't lay off the yayo. |
Author: | BongoJohnny'sInvestor [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:21 pm ] |
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IkeSouth wrote: Fact is he won mvp as the youngest player ever and lebron didnt have a bad year that year.... Rose didnt put up record numbers but he WAS unguardable. The window for greatness isnt closed even if its only cracked open at this point. We will never see "that guy" again, but we might easily get a guy who can produce more because he should play a lot smarter. He needs to make more shots tho. You're right that that window isn't closed; it's bricked up. Amontillado'd. Jimmy Hoffa'd. To find that window of greatness, you'd need to be Indiana Jones with a team of 50 sifting though layers and layers of detritus. |
Author: | long time guy [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:14 pm ] |
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The dumbest thing to come out Rose's "I'm looking forward to free agency in two years" comments is Rose's presumption that the rest of the NBA will be clamoring for his |
Author: | long time guy [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:28 pm ] |
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long time guy wrote: The dumbest thing to come out Rose's "I'm looking forward to free agency in two years" comments is Rose's presumption that the rest of the NBA will be clamoring for his services.
By that point he will be a 29 yr old point guard that has already had three surgeries performed on his knees. He is also an injury prone guy that makes a point of telling the world that he is not going to play hurt. Any general manager that even thinks about maxing him out is a damn fool. I wouldn't trust the guy with more than 10 mil a yr. |
Author: | Godfella [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:29 pm ] |
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long time guy wrote: The dumbest thing to come out Rose's "I'm looking forward to free agency in two years" comments is Rose's presumption that the rest of the NBA will be clamoring for his services. By that point you will be a 29 yr old point guard that has already had three surgeries performed on your knees. You are also an injury prone guy that makes a point of telling the world that you are not going to play hurt. Any general manager that even thinks about maxing you out is a damp fool. I wouldn't trust the guy with more than 10 mil a yr. Definitely. If anybody thinks this cat is going to finish two full healthy seasons with Da Boo, they are nuts. He will not go another season without a major injury and/or surgery. I sincerely wish him and the Bulls luck but I am not optimistic. |
Author: | long time guy [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:32 pm ] |
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Godfella wrote: long time guy wrote: The dumbest thing to come out Rose's "I'm looking forward to free agency in two years" comments is Rose's presumption that the rest of the NBA will be clamoring for his services. By that point you will be a 29 yr old point guard that has already had three surgeries performed on your knees. You are also an injury prone guy that makes a point of telling the world that you are not going to play hurt. Any general manager that even thinks about maxing you out is a damp fool. I wouldn't trust the guy with more than 10 mil a yr. Definitely. If anybody thinks this cat is going to finish two full healthy seasons with Da Boo, they are nuts. He will not go another season without a major injury and/or surgery. I sincerely wish him and the Bulls luck but I am not optimistic. I want to see the guy come back strong but he appears to be an indifferent basketball player these days. It just seems like he really isn't that interested in playing at a high level anymore. I hope I'm wrong. |
Author: | Godfella [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:36 pm ] |
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For sure... seems like he is focused on the wrong things. |
Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:53 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: IkeSouth wrote: Fact is he won mvp as the youngest player ever and lebron didnt have a bad year that year.... Rose didnt put up record numbers but he WAS unguardable. The window for greatness isnt closed even if its only cracked open at this point. We will never see "that guy" again, but we might easily get a guy who can produce more because he should play a lot smarter. He needs to make more shots tho. You'll never see "that guy" again. He's got two problems... he's very, very full of himself and he is stupid as fuck and has bad people around him. He will go down as the worst waste of talent in NBA history. Like an NBA Prior. Derrick Coleman |
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