I like 2015 Rose

Is 45 wins even realistic?

-Noah constantly injured and suddenly bad
-Gibson is not good
-Gasol is going to fall off at any minute
- Rose likely to miss half the season with injury

Will any defense be played? Tell me why I should be optimistic?

East is weak, but the Bulls at full strength have a better starting lineup than Golden State.

I need the Kool Aid you are drinking.

Is there disagreement with any of these assessments?

Key being fully healthy Bulls team.

Well, by your admission, your argument hinges on a fully healthy Rose, which is getting into angels-on-pins levels of hypothetical. And don't the Warriors draw a lot of their strength from the depth of their bench?

Noah was destined to be bad. A big man whose main asset is energy won't last more than a few decent seasons. They always have foot problems and the energy wanes by the late 20s. I knew he was going to blow after a few years.

long time guy, a few others and I seem to be on an island when it comes to belief in the Bull.

This is a talented roster. There's no reason they shouldn't win at least 50 this season especially in this Eastern conference. Do the Hawks, Wizard and Bucks really scare you? The Bull can play with any of those teams. I'm expecting that we contend for the second seed in the East and anything short of a conference final would be a huge disappointment.

Fear the Deer, Fear the Deer!!!!

Gasol is much better than Draemond Green.

I think Milwaukee has a good year, but in no way should that preclude the Bull from winning at least 50.

long time guy, a few others and I seem to be on an island when it comes to belief in the Bull.

This is a talented roster. There's no reason they shouldn't win at least 50 this season especially in this Eastern conference. Do the Hawks, Wizard and Bucks really scare you? The Bull can play with any of those teams. I'm expecting that we contend for the second seed in the East and anything short of a conference final would be a huge disappointment.

so like Fred Hoiberg, you feel defense is just that annoying time between when you have the ball.

What?

Noah has exceeded any expectation the team probably ever had for him. I don't know how anyone could be down on the guy. Yes he was never going to be an offensive force but he was the heart and soul of a team that had the best record in the league two years in a row. The shame of it all was that he and Rose never got to play together while they were each at their best.

If he fades away sooner then he should, you can point directly to his overuse by the coaching staff.

Rose at full strength is better than Stephen Curry. Probably will never see that again though.

long time guy, a few others and I seem to be on an island when it comes to belief in the Bull.

This is a talented roster. There's no reason they shouldn't win at least 50 this season especially in this Eastern conference. Do the Hawks, Wizard and Bucks really scare you? The Bull can play with any of those teams. I'm expecting that we contend for the second seed in the East and anything short of a conference final would be a huge disappointment.

I expect the Bulls to be much better than last year because they will be healthier. Mirotic should improve dramatically and McDermott should be more comfortable. This is a team that could make some noise and win it all.

Their better due, but are they 17 wins better? Nope. GS was probably the third or fourth most talented team in the West last yr. They won but injuries played a big role in their winning. Won 67 games but SA and OKC more talented. This is the true test as everyone will be gunning for them now.


That means the point is irrelevant and that Curry is better than Rose. Part of the reason why the warriors are better.

Their better due, but are they 17 wins better? Nope. GS was probably the third or fourth most talented team in the West last yr. They won but injuries played a big role in their winning. Won 67 games but SA and OKC more talented. This is the true test as everyone will be gunning for them now.


That means the point is irrelevant and that Curry is better than Rose. Part of the reason why the warriors are better.

https://twitter.com/kcjhoop/status/657243859374747648

Hoiberg said there's a "pretty good chance" Opening Night starters are Gasol, Mirotic, Snell, Butler and Rose/Hinrich.

God damnit I have had enough of seeing Kirk's name now and forever. Did Moore's legs fall off earlier today and I missed it?

Is Hoiberg high as fuck? Kirk running an actual offense? I sort of get it when it's Thibs' "ah, fuck it; who cares" offense.

That's enough to piss off the Pope. I don't need this kind of aggravation on a Thursday afternoon.