Let him do what he does. Put the ball in the hole. Hide him on the defensive end.

Let him do what he does. Put the ball in the hole. Hide him on the defensive end.

Let him do what he does. Put the ball in the hole. Hide him on the defensive end.

Let him do what he does. Put the ball in the hole. Hide him on the defensive end.

You dont trade up in the first round to get a guy that you need to hide on defense.

Not ready to throw in the towel just yet. The plus minus thing is not a good indicator either. The Bulls bench is overrated. He struggles defensively but you can hide him some. The guy can score and he stretches the floor when he is out there. I actually would like to see Noah start with McDermott with Mirotic Snell coming off the bench. Gasol and Mirotic lineup is not effective at protecting the basket. Gasol and Noah are actually good at that because of their length. I'm a Mirotic guy but his ideal role at this stage would be as a sixth man.

I hate when people say noah and gasol dont play well together. Of course they do theyre both great players. Problem is they match up best against the same type of people and most teams dont have two guys that need that matchup... So when gasol and noah are both out there there is always one mismatch.


Learn your nba people

Gasol and Noah are not a good combination on the floor together at the same time. They do not complement each other.

McDermott played with the starters yesterday, and the +/- indicator remains the same for him - bad. Mirotic has the same issues defensively at the moment, but is also better at creating his own shot and making the smart pass. He also can score at the basket...not just at 23' away.

I really don't like this team. The personnel don't fit the coach, and there are too many chuckers. Additionally, the team's "leader" is selfish and cares nothing about winning basketball.

Noah and Gasol played 63 games in 2014-15, sharing about 20 minutes nightly during which they had a net rating of 2.9, per NBA.com stats.
As a team, of course, the Bulls' net rating was 3.3. So Noah-Gasol took them in the wrong direction.

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/steve_aschburner/10/15/chicago-bulls-pau-gasol-joakim-noah-trying-to-mesh-together-under-coach-fred-hoiberg/



It must really push your buttons that a more casual NBA fan such as myself just simply knows more about the game, and the Bulls, than you do.

But I just simply won't apologize for my innate understanding of professional basketball.

Gasol and Noah are not a good combination on the floor together at the same time. They do not complement each other.

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/steve_aschburner/10/15/chicago-bulls-pau-gasol-joakim-noah-trying-to-mesh-together-under-coach-fred-hoiberg/



It must really push your buttons that a more casual NBA fan such as myself just simply knows more about the game, and the Bulls, than you do.

But I just simply won't apologize for my innate understanding of professional basketball.

I would say that depends on what else is in the draft and where your picks are.

Analytics in basketball stinks just ask Charles Barkley.

#Truth

Wait...Charles fucking Barkley is your go-to for analysis?

Everything makes complete sense now.

That isn't a meaningless stat. If last season, Noah and Gasol played together for 20 minutes per game, that would mean approximately 42% of possessions. There are 95 possessions per game (offensive and defensive ratings are based on 100 possessions, so close enough). If Noah and Gasol together had a 2.9 NetRating and the Bulls had a 3.3 overall, it would mean the Bulls with any other combination of players averaged about a 3.6 net rating. So, 0.7 more points for their offense than their defense. So if those two were never paired together, over the course of a season that would be 57 more points scored for the Bulls than the opponent scored. That could easily be 5 more wins. Or 10 more wins. Or only two more wins.

But the fact is ... more wins, no matter how you slice it.

+/- and NetRatings do an excellent job of telling how a team does, overall, when a given player is on the court.

well, all i know is you definitely cannot question the skill and ability of GarPax if McSuckits keeps sucking... because callers to B&B who suggested GarPax should go since they have never won anything.... were called idiots last year.

It doesn't quite work that way though. You have to play sub-optimal lineups all the time. Players play differently when put into different roles. Some are volume players, others are not. You can't pro-rate these stats and say other lineups would keep up their productivity with higher usage.

And you also can't say that they would do even better with more playing time. Getting more comfortable playing with each other more often...experience...etc.

So you work with the stats you have to project what you can. I'm comfortable watching McDermott with my eyes...and reading the statistics....and both tell me McDermott is bad overall for the Chicago Bulls. I like him in with 5 seconds left at the end of the quarter when the Bulls have possession. That is about it. If you could take him out for every defensive possession and put him in for every offensive possession...then we can talk about his benefits.