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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
“Executives around the league, and people have told me, that the Bulls are very determined to add a talented wing player. Tony Snell has been given a lot of opportunities and he hasn’t established himself, and I’ve been told that the Bulls are open to…whether it’s Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson…maybe not both of them, but either of them if there’s a deal out there that they can bring in the best possible wing player available, they’re open to it. That’s a direction they’re going to go in. They need more shooting…to shape this team towards more of an offensive-minded group.” Adrian Wojnarowski |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Two years, too late. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
conns7901 wrote: Two years, too late. My sentiments exactly. They are not going to get anything for either of them now. Noah has more value than Gibson, but the time to make this move was about 2 yrs ago. Gibson's value was the highest that it was ever going to be. Now they're not going to get much for him.
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Agreed. Terrible timing. Thibs pretty much told them that Snell sucks beyond small dosages and they didn't listen. He had more value before the start of this season too. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Snell is the worst part of this roster. Just start McDermott. Dougie is terrible, but Snell is just useless. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. GarPax are family. They are never going anywhere. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Paxson definitely isn't. Jerry is a very loyal guy |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. GarPax are family. They are never going anywhere. On balance, they seem like decent enough talent evaluators. I hated the way they treated Thibs who are considered to be one of the best NBA coaches and a hard worker. I won't quit the Bulls, but I have a pretty large amount of disdain for the organization. I stuck with Old Man Wirtz and the Hawks through the bad years, so it's old hat by now. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Can't break up the core. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. he wasnt in the #FAMILY Wasnt cooperative at ALL the family day or other charity events. Thats what matters! |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Supposedly talked to Phoenix about a Gibson for PJ Tucker deal. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
noah for westbrook straight up |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
RFDC wrote: Supposedly talked to Phoenix about a Gibson for PJ Tucker deal. Taj must not have much value. He should be able to net someone better than Tucker. The Morris twin is on the outs in Phoenix. You figure that they should be able to net him for Taj. That is unless Taj really isn't worth that much after all. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Hearing rumors with philly centering around a Mirotic/noel swap. I'd like that. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
I'd make that move. Bulls are trying to get younger and more athletic. Mirotic is a tweener. He will never be a starter and probably not much of a contributor for a winning team. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
FavreFan wrote: Hearing rumors with philly centering around a Mirotic/noel swap. I'd like that. wouldn't that still leave them with the same problem? Too many bigs to find time for? |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
RFDC wrote: FavreFan wrote: Hearing rumors with philly centering around a Mirotic/noel swap. I'd like that. wouldn't that still leave them with the same problem? Too many bigs to find time for? I think they are thinking more for the future in this one. Gasol and Noah aren't long for the fight. Portis and Noel pairing going forward. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
long time guy wrote: RFDC wrote: Supposedly talked to Phoenix about a Gibson for PJ Tucker deal. Taj must not have much value. He should be able to net someone better than Tucker. The Morris twin is on the outs in Phoenix. You figure that they should be able to net him for Taj. That is unless Taj really isn't worth that much after all. You may be the most annoying person I've known in my life. Happy New Year! |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:17 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: You may be the most annoying person I've known in my life. Nas wrote: |
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| Author: | Nas [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:32 pm ] |
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 You wonder why I hate you.
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:40 pm ] |
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Douchebag wrote: Nas wrote: You may be the most annoying person I've known in my life. Nas wrote:
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
RFDC wrote: FavreFan wrote: Hearing rumors with philly centering around a Mirotic/noel swap. I'd like that. wouldn't that still leave them with the same problem? Too many bigs to find time for? Maybe for this year, but im not sure how much longer taj, Gasol, and noah will be around, and I'd rather have noel than Mirotic going forward. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Nas wrote: long time guy wrote: RFDC wrote: Supposedly talked to Phoenix about a Gibson for PJ Tucker deal. Taj must not have much value. He should be able to net someone better than Tucker. The Morris twin is on the outs in Phoenix. You figure that they should be able to net him for Taj. That is unless Taj really isn't worth that much after all. You may be the most annoying person I've known in my life. Happy New Year! The Taj ship has sailed too. His value isn't really that great. P.J. Tucker? I long for the halcyon days when the likes of a Pau Gasol, and even Kevin Love were dismissed because we had Taj. |
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| Author: | The 312 [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. GarPax are family. They are never going anywhere. Reinsdorf is an idiot. The Bulls and the south-side inbreds will not get better until he pulls a Wirtz. |
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| Author: | ZephMarshack [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
It's really a shame this need for a wing materialized out of nowhere this year. Poor GarPax must have really been caught off guard by this sudden need. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
ZephMarshack wrote: It's really a shame this need for a wing materialized out of nowhere this year. Poor GarPax must have really been caught off guard by this sudden need. Well it's probably due to disappointment about Mirotic and Snell. The 312 wrote: Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. GarPax are family. They are never going anywhere. Reinsdorf is an idiot. The Bulls and the south-side inbreds will not get better until he pulls a Wirtz. For all my management bashing, I think the Bulls have done all they could. There are things here and there that you can definitely argue about, like holding on to players too long, or letting Asik walk for free, but it's not like those moves or lack thereof prevented us from winning a championship. The truth is LBJ has owned the east since 2010, and every other team just exists for him to beat. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
I don't think that is true. Everyone but LTG and the Bulls organization knew Snell wasn't good. They sat on Gibson too long too. He's had about 90 lower body injuries and it's clear that he doesn't have any lift (couldn't jump high to begin with). Same is true with Noah coming off an MVP type season. They're great at evaluating draft talent but suck when it comes to making deals. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
veganfan21 wrote: ZephMarshack wrote: It's really a shame this need for a wing materialized out of nowhere this year. Poor GarPax must have really been caught off guard by this sudden need. Well it's probably due to disappointment about Mirotic and Snell. The 312 wrote: Douchebag wrote: denisdman wrote: The Chairman (and Bulls) would have been better off keeping Thibs and getting rid of the backstabbers above him. GarPax are family. They are never going anywhere. Reinsdorf is an idiot. The Bulls and the south-side inbreds will not get better until he pulls a Wirtz. For all my management bashing, I think the Bulls have done all they could. There are things here and there that you can definitely argue about, like holding on to players too long, or letting Asik walk for free, but it's not like those moves or lack thereof prevented us from winning a championship. The truth is LBJ has owned the east since 2010, and every other team just exists for him to beat. The Bulls did attempt to sign Melo in an effort to shore up the wing position. It's always difficult to say which move will put a team over the top also. Who would have ever thought that the drafting of Curry, Thompson and Draemond Green would have put G.S. over the top. None of the three were top five picks and Green was a 2nd round pick. The injury to Rose changed everything. It was going to be difficult to do anything with 20 mil tied up in him. 3 seasons were lost due to injuries to him. I'm a Paxson advocate but he does hold into guys too long. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bulls Shopping Noah and/or Gibson |
Nas wrote: I don't think that is true. Everyone but LTG and the Bulls organization knew Snell wasn't good. They sat on Gibson too long too. He's had about 90 lower body injuries and it's clear that he doesn't have any lift (couldn't jump high to begin with). Same is true with Noah coming off an MVP type season. They're great at evaluating talent but suck when it comes to making deals. I advocated for a trade of Gibson a yr and a half ago and I was shot down by you. Gibson, to quote the great Dennis Green, was what I thought he was. Now you can barely get a complimentary happy meal for the guy. I thought Snell would be better but I never had him as anything special. I thought that he should play ahead of Etwaun Moore and Hinrich which he does. |
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