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 Post subject: Worst Run Sport
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:18 pm 
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Your front offices are loaded with lifers who don't know the first thing about running a lemonade stand, why would you think they should be involved in a sport that produces millions?

The last strike/lockout produced a shitty deal for players and teams, so much that the Hawks had to destroy a very popular championship team, nice touch for your league when make a team dismantle itself because of your own restrictions.

This latest debacle will create another 3-5 year step back in terms of your popularity, just in time for the next lockout.

Might even say no longer 4 major sports exists! or at least hockey isnt the 4th

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 Post subject: Re: Worst Run Sport
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:17 pm 
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The last strike/lockout produced a shitty deal for players and teams

Record-setting revenues.

But yes, it is the worst-run sport, without a doubt. The NHL sends owners to prison like Illinois does governors.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:45 am 
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Q.Bovifs wrote:
Is it too late to submit a trademark application for the parody thread titled "Worst Run Support"? :scratch: :D 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:57 am 
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Q.Bovifs wrote:
Is it too late to submit a trademark application for the parody thread titled "Worst Run Support"? :scratch: :D 8)


:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Worst Run Sport
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:50 am 
Converse All-Stars?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:46 pm 
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Biggie, you know better. It's baseball. The answer is and will always be, as long as Bud is ruinning things, baseball.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst Run Sport
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:49 pm 
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Baseball has had long-lasting labor peace and keeps making money for everyone. The NHL is on its third lockout in twenty years and has owned a team for over three years because no one will buy it yet they insist it has to stay. Worst-run sport.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:32 pm 
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Baseball has had long-lasting labor peace and keeps making money for everyone. The NHL is on its third lockout in twenty years and has owned a team for over three years because no one will buy it yet they insist it has to stay. Worst-run sport.

How many years did MLB own the Expos? Why do they allow Jeffrey Loria to own the Marlins? Why is Jerry Reinsdorf running things behind the scenes? Why did they fuck up the All-Star Game/World Series by giving home field advantage in the later to the winner of the former? Did they not just institute that the 2 wild card teams would play 1 do or die game, then the winner get home field advantage in the first round against A BETTER TEAM?

We may agree to disagree, but outside of financials, it's pretty close.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:23 pm 
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How many years did MLB own the Expos?

4+ if you include the year and change they ran the Nationals

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Why do they allow Jeffrey Loria to own the Marlins?

Owners like other owners who suppress costs.

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Why is Jerry Reinsdorf running things behind the scenes?

Threatened to relocate Bud Selig to St. Petersburg, Florida

Look, baseball has its faults, which you've shown here, but nothing comes close to the incompetence that the NHL has displayed since its inception. I strongly urge you to read The Instigator: How Gary Bettman Remade the NHL and Changed the Game Forever, and behold the stupid decisions and stupid people that this league has featured. It's astounding.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Your front offices are loaded with lifers who don't know the first thing about running a lemonade stand, why would you think they should be involved in a sport that produces millions?

I don't know if you're talking about the Blackhawks or the NHL itself here. For the record, the NHL grossed $3.3 billion with a B last season. That's pretty impressive when you consider they lack the media-based revenue streams that other leagues have. In terms of attendance, the NHL has to be well ahead of the NBA. That's the only way the math works out.

At any rate, the Blackhawks have flushed out a lot of the crusty lifers who know hockey without knowing business, and I, for one, applaud them for it. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one when I see people still bitching about firing Dale Tallon. The 2010 breakup had a lot to do with some systemic flaws of the CBA, like you mentioned: Kane and Toews were eligible for performance incentives that veterans weren't, and those bonuses they earned by excelling (regular season scoring, plus Toews's playoff MVP) counted against the cap, went past it, and thus wrapped around to 2011. That sucked. I don't begrudge them their success, but it does no one any good to punish the team because a player on an entry-level contract was subjectively voted to have won an award. That said, Tallon had screwed the team over by throwing out money with no perspective before you even get to the overages from the ELC bonuses, and he had to be held responsible for that. Should there be a hard cap and floor? I lean toward no; not with the disparity in team-to-team revenues unique to the NHL. But there was one, and he had to be mindful of that as all general managers did.

As for the NHL, they've been bringing in executives from all over, most notably John Collins coming in from the NFL to develop the Winter Classic. It's not like the league is being run by Mike Keenan here.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst Run Sport
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Too damn bad the NHL has the exclusive rights to the Stanley Cup. I know last time there was a petition to award it to a different league. Would love to see that happen now. Bettman has made the NHL the biggest joke around.


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