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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:15 pm 
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Huh. I'm getting tired of the turnovers but I feel like there are times where Crawford loses focus. He'll save a goal or get it to his d. When they cross the blue line, it's like he relaxes and says okay my job is done. Then there is a turnover and boom goal.

None of those goals were his fault, except he is the goalie.

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Huh. I'm getting tired of the turnovers but I feel like there are times where Crawford loses focus. He'll save a goal or get it to his d. When they cross the blue line, it's like he relaxes and says okay my job is done. Then there is a turnover and boom goal.

None of those goals were his fault, except he is the goalie.


:lol: There are times where it's Jay Cutler interceptionish.


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Runblad is fucking brutal. I dont know why Q loves this guy.

Rundblad is a Bowman guy. Rozsival is a Q guy. Good thing the salary cap doesn't restrict the Blackhawks' supply of rope, because apparently we love giving people enough to hang themselves.

Gotta get TVR back up here to give us his 10 minutes a night of not completely fucking up.

Sucks to see we lost, at least I missed it. Looks like we'll probably have to settle for third place again, but at least this postseason isn't going to be easy for anyone.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:59 pm 
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Q definitely does NOT love Runblad. That is clear.

I feel really bad that I could not watch this puke fest tonight.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:42 am 
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Gee, good thing I didn't write this:

http://thecommittedindian.com/and-getti ... 5-hawks-2/
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I’ll give you the normal intro to a wrap here, but it won’t be the normal wrap. And before I go any farther, I know there are some who think I’m always negative for the sake of it. That’s fine, I like to think I’m just realistic. And what I’m about to write I’ve only done so once in the seven years we’ve been doing this. It was also after a late-season loss at home to a Jackets team the Hawks had no business losing to. And they laughed that off and the prospect that they could miss the playoffs, except for Brian Campbell, until they did actually miss the playoffs in 2011 and had a Minnesota Wild team save them at the last possible moment. So don’t think I take it lightly.

The 2014-2015 Chicago Blackhawks are finished.

Let’s review. The Hawks were completely embarrassed at home by the Boston Bruins in February, and Joel Quenneville talked about hitting a “get attention” button. Since then, the Hawks have completely capitulated to Tampa, Dallas, Philadelphia, and arguably tonight. They tried to capitulate to the Oilers at home but Corey Crawford simply wouldn’t let them, and they figured while they were there they might as well pull it out.

That’s not all. Even though Patrick Kane got hurt, the management of this team went out and sent a message through their acquisitions that they still believed this team could go far enough for Kane to come back and the Hawks to take a serious run at another parade. They were all in on this season. And though it’s only my theory, the acquisition of Kimmo Timonen was something of a directive for the rest of the dressing room to cut out the happy horseshit that had been affecting it and focus on the task at hand. Here was a player who wanted one last run at a Cup after overcoming a life threatening condition. The management wanted the Hawks to respond to Timonen just as they had to Handzus and Rozsival in ’13 and Hossa in ’10. What does it look like to you?

On the front page of our gameday program the game after the Vermette and Timonen acquistions, I wrote that management had made it clear what they thought this team was capable of. If they didn’t snap into gear after that, we would know something is truly broken internally. I think we know now.

It usually felt like when the Hawks fell behind, even this year, there was at least a roar to come back even if it fell short. Did it feel like there was a roar tonight? There certainly wasn’t against Tampa, Dallas and Philadelphia. Maybe you could argue there was tonight, but it’s not like we saw earlier in the year.

Most worrying, it’s the players the Hawks count on making all the mistakes. Marcus Kruger knows better than to put a risky saucer pass at Keith’s feet at the blue line, just like Marian Hossa knows better than trying to dangle two guys at his own line on Wednesday. Keith knows better than trying to fling a puck to any open space he can find as he did leading to the 2nd and 3rd Jackets’ goals tonight. But it keeps happening. The Hawks know what the issues are, but they keep happening. Toews may have scored tonight, but there’s a reason he can’t complete half his passes.

Fatigue? I’m sorry, I just don’t buy it. The Kings have played just as much hockey as the Hawks, and they’re just rounding into form now. If you want to use that as proof that management doesn’t know how to pace a regular season, that’s a discussion I will have.

Quite simply, the Hawks look like a team that doesn’t want to play for each other, and can’t wait for the season to end. They had an eight-game homestand, of a length never heard of, to get back into the division race. They borked it. Even after that, they had a chance. After shutting out the Rangers in MSG, the Hawks sat two points behind the Predators with two games in hand. It was all right there for them. Since, they spit up to the Stars, tried to against the Canes, did against the Flyers, and did again tonight. Does that sound like a team that’s ready for the fight come April 15th?

Cite Kane’s injury all you want, there’s still too much talent here to look this nonchalant and disinterested. They should have pulled out some if not all of these games.

And you know what? They could slip right out of the playoffs now. The Wild are only one point behind. The Jets only four, and the Hawks go there next. Do they seem like a team that’s ready to respond to that challenge? It’s the Kings, Canucks, a gimme against the Sabres, Blues, Wild, Blues, Avalanche after that. Is a 2-6 record through that so unthinkable? In this condition?

It would take that for the serious questions to get answered, maybe. There are serious questions about the locker room right now, and what management knew about it and what they did about it. I’m honestly shocked that I’m questioning this team’s heart right now, because this is basically the same team that laughed at playoff deficits the past two years. Right now, this looks like a team that will use a 1-0 or 2-0 deficit in the 1st round to pack it up. If they even get there.

What about the last month, the last two, the last three, do we have to think anything’s different? The coach has pushed what he thinks is his biggest button. So did management. And what they got was a team that let in four goals to the Jackets in 20 minutes.

I fully realize this could all come to bite me in the ass soon. If it does, I’ll happily accept it because that means things are going really well. But I don’t see it. Do you?

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Are they finished? No.

They're definitely not one of the favorites to win the Cup anymore though. Sad, but true.


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Overall, you agree with CI's views, CH, or not?
Because I'm consistently getting mixed signals on that. That article is fluff.
Go get Babcock. Be "bold". That's what this all about, right? In fact, bring him in right now - wtf is he gonna do with this team without Kane?

Kane is done for the year. All of the other "OMG the Hawks are terrible" and "Q SUX" and "Sky is falling" crap doesn't matter.
Their best player is hurt and probably not gonna play again this year. Nothing else matters. No team in the NHL survives losing Kane to go on and win the Cup. None of the of the previous hand wringing this year matters, right or wrong. Once he went down, so did the hopes.

Oh BY THE WAY: The Hawks are 7-3-1 in MARCH. WITHOUT KANE.
THEY ARE 7-3-1 AFTER LOSING 2 IN A ROW OMGGG!!! THIS TEAM SUCKS!
And "fatigue"? Who the hell is talking about fatigue? NOBODY. Nice straw man there.


But I definitely did NOT pay a lot of money to play hockey at Bradley against Nebraska Catholic College. So what do I know?


"Capitulate". Really? Shut the fuck up already. :roll:
God this is a load of crap. Come on, CH. You are a better hockey fan than this.

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CH, that is some dumb shit in that column. The Hawks missing the playoffs??? Lulz times infinity. They would have to fall back to Cal-gary in the standings to only watch Stanley Cup tournament.

That is 7 points and the Hawks have a game in hand with the Flames having 7 games remaining.

Do the Hawks looked tired and disinterested? I would say yes, but how many times do we have watch the President's Cup winner do not a damn thing almost every year?

This is hipster pessimism. They should not be allowed to participate in any playoff victories. This is some bullshit....

No team but one brings home the Cup every year. A team can look like shit in March and win in April, May, and even into June. Didnt the "rounding into form" Kings win the Cup from the 8th seed in 2012? They were 8th becuase they played like shit for a few months in the regular season and won 16 playoff games.

Those fuckers should start following lacrosse or MLS.

LET'S GO GAYS, I mean, HAWKS!

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Their chances are pretty slim at this point.

They're not going to miss the playoffs, but really... they're not... great. You can be good and get to the playoffs but you gotta be great to win a championship and they're just... not.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:32 am 
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They're not missing the playoffs, but they might fall to fifth place in the Central if they shit the bed the way they did with that homestand. I said they had to take six out of six before the tough games start and they only took two. If you count the Dallas game as another gimme, they only took two out of eight.

Spanky, I can't get a good read on you, either. You're chiding me for pointing out that someone was being far more pessimistic than I am, then you're agreeing that the Hawks can't win the Stanley Cup. If that's the case, then it was really stupid to give up a mid-teens draft pick in the best draft since 2003. I thought they could get serious and keep their heads above water at least through to the second round, and they still might, but they're not making it easy on themselves. Maybe they'll realize the Hawks as a contender is all over after this year and they can get over whatever sort of personal crap is going on among them.

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Glad I am out of the country and too tan/drunk to care about all this. I wouldn't want get "passive aggressive" or anything. Long live Turks Island Draught!

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While I am not nearly as fatalistic as CI and others, it does not look good for the Cup this season. The Hawks have been too inconsistent, and CI is right - too many on this team look nonchalant and disinterested. I will differ on a couple of things, though: the playoffs are always a different story, and I'm not discounting a little bit of sandbagging, plus I think Kane will be back, and back for the first round.

How's that for optimism? :drunken:

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Kane won't be back for the first round, but I do agree they'll stop dogging it by playoff time. I would prefer they stop before they fall into the wild cards, though.

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Does 2 need a game off to mentally reset or rest or something? I expect the bottom 3 on the blue line to have their issues but not the top guy. He has had his head up his ass over this little stretch of awfulness. Everyone else takes heat when they play bad but he just kind of seems immune from criticism.

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The Hawks are down to fourth place in the Central, temporarily, one can only hope, being one point behind Minnesota with two games in hand. The Minnesota Wild have become completely unstoppable on the back of Devan fucking Dubnyk. Hockey makes such little sense sometimes, it's a wonder we even try to follow it.

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