WGRZ ‏@WGRZ 10m10 minutes ago
Erie County DA Frank Sedita, III will be holding a press conf. Friday at 11am to discuss alleged evidence tampering in Kane case.

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Ok. Good. They're gonna talk.

But this was a quick investigation. So I'm guessing they're simply gonna say...

"We checked the chain of command logs, we have the original bag, there was no tampering, we don't know where that other bag came from. We are investigating that right now. No questions at this time as this is an ongoing investigation."

And then they will announce that there will be no charges filed against Patrick Kane as a result of the investigation.

Boers will say his guy left him this info on his answering machine last week.

At that point, heads will explode in the following order:

Julie Dicairo
Sarah Spain
Bernstein
Beardown (due to the death of Bernstein)
Drinky
Goff
Meatpants
Herb

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Wait a second. Julie Dicaro has "sourced" info on the Kane case that she's putting on her twitter, yet not on THE SCORE. I haven't heard what she's saying on the updates. She's got something from the alleged victim's side.

That's interesting. Don't feel comfortable sharing it on your employer's outlet? Why?

Check it out.

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/09/media-calling-for-nhl-to-suspend-patrick-kane/

Julie Dicaro can go away.

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A member of this board used to work with her and offers up many thoughts to me....technically 2 people used to work with her, but one worked directly.

Nothing good to say about her....and his final statement "She does updates on the Score now...should tell you something...its not like she retired from the PD because she made $500K a year!"

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SOURCE: Neither the accuser nor her civil plaintiff's attorney has axed for access to said soiled undergarments.

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Given her seeming inability to coherently read an update....I'm not surprised.

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JD is saying that he accuser has not been able to see the garments that are in possession of the authorities.
Didn't she take them off and hand them to the police, for Christ's sake?
This is getting more and more ridiculous.

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See Julie is bashing people who question her. She takes the attitude of if you don't like what I say then your pro Kane and pro rape.

No, Julie. I think Kane did it and still question your reporting and agenda. It can be both.

They probably should've suspended him pending the investigation. It's an easy call, shows you treat the accusation seriously (a lot moreso than 'cretins on twitter'), and what would've been the downside? He misses precious hockey training camp? The playoffs aren't until April.

There's no benefit to 'standing behind' someone accused of rape. Makes Julie DiCaro types happy, and the fans wouldn't turn on the Blackhawks just as much as they're not turning on the alleged rapist. They'd probably nod that at worst it's still good to reduce 'distraction'. It doesn't set any kind of bad precedent since not even hockey players are routinely investigated for rape to the point where it has a larger affect.

That assumes they could get some kind of information as to the timeframe of when they're pressing charges or not. That part shouldn't take months, though. Then when no charges filed they happily bring him back vindicated. If he is charged then he stays gone. Let the process play out, right?

Since DB is presumably not here I feel I should point out Julie is getting the same hate listens/follows as Dan Bernstein.

Beardown, I agree that's bogus. Makes her little better than SportsMockery (or Beardown)

to loosely paraphrase or maybe just hearken george carlin: don't you find it at least mildly ironic that most people who cry "rape culture" look like people who'd probably have to beg for sex in the first place?

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I just find it curious. This is a big story. Tons of reporters trying to chase it down. She has an exclusive, according to her, and yet she doesn't call the SCORE with it? She didn't request that the nasally voiced idiot, Shepkoski, lead all of his updates with "Our very own Julie DiCaro is reporting that..."

If she got it and was confident in it, she should feel obligated to report this news on the Score's blowtorch - Her employer. It's irresponsible not to do so. So shame on her for not. But it seems she wasn't so confident or else she would have done so.

maybe she's been on the phone with TMZ and radaronline and the like in the hopes of procuring a nice little $omething $omething for the exclusive? it IS 2015 after all and information is money these days, ask the guy who just bought 4chan.

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For what its worth the updates I heard from her today used terms like the score has learned or 670 reports.

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Oh, she did the midday updates? Didn't hear the Score at that time. I just heard Shep. No mention. Shep is stupid. He wouldn't know to include it. And I guess nobody over there cares to inform him.

Ok. My apologies then. Did not know she was reporting it in the earlier shift.

Still bad that the Score doesn't inform the next update guy of the story the station broke. But it's the Score.

Credit where it's due, Fels wrote a really good essay today on Committed Indian to kind of walk things back a little bit and try to calm things down. I appreciate the call to sanity.

Not related to that, but I want to go back to stuff JORR posted a couple days ago, or in other words, twenty pages of this thread ago:



I really hate how it's verboten to address the role of alcohol in sexual assault. Emily Yoffe got into deep shit for this a couple years ago when she wrote a column saying that girls shouldn't drink till they pass out lest they greatly endanger themselves. This is pretty sensible, but it got the daddy's-girl contingent of the social justice left up in arms because they have the right to get piss-drunk at parties and it's fun and instead of shaming girls out of drinking, we should be "teaching men not to rape." A note on the last part in a sec, but what about saying that guys shouldn't be getting shitfaced either? Why can't we say that? While there are, of course, sober rapists, drugging rapists, or rapists who pace themselves while the girl drinks like a fish, I would be willing to wager that overconsumption plays just as much a part on the man's side. This is what a culture that's never been able to properly reckon with alcohol has wrought: making it a forbidden fruit that has to be "enjoyed" to excess the first chance people get. Unfortunately, we're probably too far gone to do anything about the big picture now, but in lieu of swiftly developing a healthy attitude toward drinking in this country, I don't see the harm in telling guys not to drink to the point that their worst violent impulses will arise, nor with telling girls not to drink to the point that they will make themselves vulnerable to said impulses. Will this solve every rape everywhere? Of course not, but I don't see how it isn't a step in the right direction. This whole mess we're in was born of a guy growing up in a subculture of rampant drug and alcohol abuse. I don't believe that incapacitating oneself is an inalienable human right. If that makes me a bad liberal, so be it.

A note on Teaching Boys Not To Rape: I honestly do not get it. I was under the impression that if you have a mother, a sister, or just aren't a fucking idiot, you are taught what the concept of consent is. Relative to other concepts, such as, I dunno, gravity, the idea of "don't do that" has never struck me as one that's hard to grasp, or one that goes ungrasped. Back when there was that big webcomic about sexual consent being like serving tea, everyone was in love with it, but I didn't care for it. I don't think the issue has ever been guys not knowing what consent is. It's guys not caring. I know, filed away in my head, lots of things that are wrong, like lying, or speeding, or using Soulseek. Sometimes I do them anyway because I don't care. So it goes with rape, I suspect. Every man who has had a woman absolutely anywhere in his life knows not to rape. When they do, it's because at that moment, they don't care. Sometimes because they've had too much to drink.

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I like what CH and Jorr have said. There clearly to me anyway is a difference between date rape, confused rape and violent crazy guy on the street rape.

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UHHHHHH CH, </SHARK>

when's the last time you turned on a game and saw a commercial for sensible sobriety? have you ever walked down the street and seen a neon sign for "responsibility" on the window of a liquor store? last i checked "common sense" doesn't sponsor a lot of the things that help to comprise "americana" as we know it, and last i checked there isn't a "Rational judgment" lobby in washington..... but call it a hunch that there is an alcohol lobby in DC.

obviously i'm just playing devil's advocate here to a certain extent, but when you talk about a culture where drinking to excess is seen as some ultimate manifestation of freedom/YAHAAAA-TIME/etc, welp go figure that culture is one whose products are often brought to you by [alcohol conglomerate], and quite honestly it'll be OVER THEIR DEAD BODIES that they have people going around en masse and telling college kids (primo demographic!) to try and have the times of their lives a little less drunk and a little more responsible. while beer companies will always give you that understated/z-copy-ish "please enjoy our products responsibly" line, by and large i'm sure they'll lobby against any sort of organized inter/national campaign to get people to tone down the drinking because that's going to cut into their profits, and what's the most important thing here? HINT: it's NOT your problem/s.

also, when you talk about "teaching men not to rape" that's a part of the whole SJW/contemporary-online-feminist mentality where they gotta always have a core concept for a faux/righteous crusade that appeals to some common denominator of human decency (DON'T RAPE PEOPLE!!!! - i mean, how many people out there are gonna be FOR rape? that's how you get the foot in the door) and then they always gotta apply that to a broad-brushed enemy of some sorts, in this case it's men. the goal is to give them soomething unfuckwithable to brandish as a core tenet, you know, so at the core of their arguments they're always right about something (RAPE=BAD) so you will have to concede that.... and from there they can pile on the bullshit to contort that original message into anything that helps out their cause, especially when they're CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK FROM THEIR ENEMIES (in this case, men)

it's a means to an ends.... you've always gotta have some enemy (at least 5% real and 95% imagined) to make your causes/message/narrative seem that much more important, like if you don't do what we want our enemies are going to get us! and then when that cause is technically borne of something that everyone can get behind (people shouldn't get raped) you brandish it as a weapon to get whatever you want done in terms of tangentially/ish related things that help your cause, because if you don't let us have X well then our evil enemies (men) are gonna come and start doing horrible things to us (rape) because YOU didnt do what we said needed to be done to stop them!

i dont think there's a rape culture or rape epidemic or anything, but i think rape is just being used as a foot-in-the-door to get people to listen to the other bullshit you spew after you get past the rape stuff. and when your proverbial/enemy is one as broad as EVERY MALE OF A RAPING AGE, well, that only adds to the urgency of your message because if we don't do what they say PRONTO there could be as many as 3 billion rapists walking the earth unless we undergo some radical changes to the way we live think and act NOW!

TLDR = it's all a means to an ends. there is no way to "teach men not to rape" as much as there is using that stuff to set up a situation where perpetual potential/victims are all in danger unless [you do everything they say] and in the end it's about brandishing as much lowest common denominator stuff around as possible to get as many people possible to #ListenAndBelieve

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been raped a lot?

Date rape is real and, in fact, I would guess most rapes are what we would call date rapes, where the rapist was not a stranger. But the definition is being stretched to a point where the woman is now able to declare a consensual encounter rape after the fact due to her own consumption of alcohol and/or drugs. This completely denies women agency and responsibility for their actions and is as far from feminism as anything I can think of. A woman has the right to get shit-faced drunk and fuck and it's a really patriarchal idea to believe that it's incumbent upon a man to protect her from herself.

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another presser from the victim's atty in about 30

BREAKING: lawyers for Patrick Kane's accuser holding a press conference tonight at 8:45. @WKBW

Why can't they protect themselves? Who says it has to be a man?

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Thoughts? You have interesting takes on this so far. Seems to me they're trying to get ahead of whatevers going to happen at the DA presser tommorow

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Which one is real rape?

Asking for someone else.

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I am not sure how my post sounded but yes all rape is real. I only meant that as opposed to 30 years ago there are differences than just the evil man stalking women in the park at night.

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Date rape and confused rape didn't happen 30 years ago?

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