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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

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What is TOR thinking?!?


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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

Confirmed or rumor?

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Kirkwood wrote:
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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

:shock:

What is TOR thinking?!?


The national guys think the Hawks were robbed. :lol:

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RT @RealFansProgram: Watch a game and read a stat sheet. - McClure @dantencer: What a steal for Toronto. Wow.

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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

Confirmed or rumor?


Confirmed

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Only six days after scoring the Stanley Cup-clinching goal for the Chicago Blackhawks, center Dave Bolland had been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for picks 51, 117 and a 4th round pick in 2014.The post Blackhawks Trade Dave Bolland To Toronto appeared first on Committed Indians.


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Hate to see my guy Bolland go. Great guy. Awesome hawk. Right hockey move.

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Drop In wrote:
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Bolland to the Leafs in exchange for No. 51, No. 117 and a 4th rd pick next year.

:shock:

What is TOR thinking?!?


The national guys think the Hawks were robbed. :lol:

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RT @RealFansProgram: Watch a game and read a stat sheet. - McClure @dantencer: What a steal for Toronto. Wow.

National guys are fucking dopes. Hes been bad for 2 years now. In the 1st cup run, he was a very valuable and effective player. Since then, hurt and bad and certainly not worth a 3.5 million cap hit. Good luck in Toronto, hope he heals up and is once again serviceable.

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So what is the thinking on the first round pick Ryan Hartman?

Good pick? Bad pick?

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LOL @ steal for Toronto.

Simply put, Bolland is trash. This is a great move for the Hawks. Bolland use to be my favorite player but it's time for the Hawks and him to go their seperate ways. Maybe a change of scenery will do Bolland some good, somewhere where he'll be a leader and looked up to.

Some Hawks fans will be upset. It's tough to see someone go so quickly after he scored the game winning goal in Game 6 but this had to be done. Bickell is more important to this team. We have young, talented centers that are looking for their turn in the big leagues. You don't just find players like Bickell growing on trees. It sucked when we lost Big Buff and we were fortunate enough to have Bickell. Hopefully the Hawks get him re-signed now.


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So what is the thinking on the first round pick Ryan Hartman?

Good pick? Bad pick?


It seems like a nice pick to me. The only shit I can get is people telling people not to be excited because he's from Chicago. The Bernstein influence.

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It looks like this was a move designed to create room for Bicks...

Thought he'd be that solid second line center. never really happened. Still really need that.

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http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2013/5/23/4357400/ryan-hartman-2013-nhl-draft-prospect-profile

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A few months ago, the name Ryan Hartman was discussed quite a bit on In Lou We Trust. He was a line-mate of current Devils' prospect Blake Pietila for the US team at the World Junior Championships in January. The line was called the "grind line" during the competition and they were vital to the United States winning the gold medal in Russia. As the sixteenth ranked North American skater in the upcoming draft, Hartman is said to be under-ranked by some and is worth looking at due to his intense style of play and scoring touch. He has an impressive resume as he took part in many international competitions along with a successful first season in the OHL in 2012-2013. Keep reading for a full profile on Ryan Hartman.

Who is Ryan Hartman?

Coming in at 5'11" and 185 lbs, Hartman is not a big guy, but he plays a big game. As part of the Plymouth Whalers in the OHL, he scored 23 goals and 37 assists in just 56 games in the 2012-2013 season (his first with the team). Hartman missed the end of the regular season and the beginning of the playoffs due to a major cut to his arm, but returned sooner than expected and found success in nine playoff games with the Whalers scoring four goals and two assists in nine games. As noted above, Hartman also took part in the US National Junior Team scoring two goals and three points in seven games, helping the team win gold at the 2013 WJC in Russia. He was one of just two draft-eligible players to make the team - the second being Seth Jones.

While Ryan is not ranked as high as other forwards coming into the draft, he has a lot to offer any team that selects him. He plays a gritty style games and does the dirty work along the boards, but he also has a great scoring touch. He's an extremely versatile player and doesn't let his size get in the way of his game. He is considered one of the best skaters in the draft class this year with great agility, acceleration, and speed. He is also admired for his creativity in the game - he sees the ice well and makes smart passes along with having a good shot.

With all of these positive aspects to his game, why is he expected to go further down in the first round? His size is his biggest issue, especially with his style of play. If he wants to keep up with his gritty style - which is his main asset, he needs to bulk up quite a bit. Because he is smaller, he will need to take time to develop and build up strength before he is ready to take on a full time role in the NHL. When he is ready, he could be a great top-six forward.

In comparing Hartman to another player, he has similarities to Mike Richards of the Los Angeles Kings and Ryan Callahan of the Rangers. While these two players are not the favorites of many Devils fans, having a player with a similar skillset would be nice to have on the New Jersey roster.

What experts are saying about Ryan Hartman:

Hartman is a well-liked prospect coming into the draft. Chris Edwards of NHL Central Scouting said,

"I think Ryan has come into the league this season and done everything that was expected of him and more. He has shown some toughness to go along with his high-end skill set and excellent skating ability. He has been one of the offensive leaders for the Whalers this season."

Edwards also discussed his style of play in more detail,

"He's not the biggest guy, but he shows no fear of getting involved and battles for the puck. He can hit hard and is aggressive on the forecheck. He sees the ice well, gets the puck through traffic with creative passes and offers a very good shot that he gets off quickly."

Edwards also wrote about Hartman on the big stage when he participated in the World Junior Championships,

"When you're playing that well on a stage like [the WJC], you prove you're a big-name guy and can play with better players and better competition."

Speaking of the WJC, Hartman played with the projected number one draft pick, Seth Jones. Here is what Jones had to say about Hartman's game,

"Ryan's a great player. He's gritty when he needs to be and can score, drives to the net and forechecks hard. He's an all-around package; he hits, scores and moves the puck well. I can't think of any weaknesses."

US coach Phil Housley also had nothing but praise for Hartman,

"He's a guy who can play center or wing, so that proves to me right off the bat the range he has as a player."

Shawn Reznik of The Hockey Writers wrote,

"Ryan Hartman has been a workhorse all season. His determination and work ethic on the ice has thoroughly impressed scouts during the past Plymouth Whalers season. When he isn't scoring goals, or racking up assists, he's getting in a tussle with the team's opposing players.

Game in and game out, he plays much bigger than his size indicates. Standing at 5'11″, Hartman plays like a power forward. His all-around game stands out from the competition and he plays a full 200 ft. His skating is adept, as is his hockey smarts and vision. The Illinois native doesn't possess the hardest shot, but he uses his accuracy and hard work in front of the net score goals and create chances."

Craig Button, a TSN scout and former NHL GM discussed his thoughts on Hartman,

"He knows how to play but one way - whatever it takes to win. He competes, has an edge, can be chippy and dirty, but he plays within the confines of discipline. He will target key players on the opposition's side. He's smart with the puck, can make very good plays and has confidence with the puck. He will drive the net with or without the puck and he pays a price to play. Good skater who has very good game awareness as to what needs to happen to help his team win. Overall, a player who is no fun to play against."

Once again, it is nothing but praise for Hartman. He earns everything he gets, so he will be an exciting player to watch no matter where he ends up.

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First is an interview Hartman did with the NHL Network:


Here is a profile of Hartman from NHL.com


Finally, here are a few videos of Hartman at the WJC in January,

My Opinion:

I really like Ryan Hartman, but I don't think the Devils will take him with their first round pick. He has a lot of what the Devils need in a forward, but there are more players closer to playing at the NHL level that New Jersey should pick with such a high spot. While he isn't ranked to go when New Jersey picks, I think he has more potential than his ranking gives him. He's a smart and talented player who could be a fan favorite in a few years.

My favorite thing about Hartman's game is his work ethic - he is playing his hardest every time he hits the ice. He is constantly working on his game, which is why it's tough to find a weakness in his game. While he isn't expected to go until late in the first round, it has been noted that with his skill set, he deserves to go earlier. While I don't think he will become a New Jersey Devil, I imagine Hartman will be a great top-six forward for whatever team he lands on.

Your Take:

Now what you've read up on Hartman and know my opinion, what do you think of Ryan Hartman? Where do you think he will be drafted in June? Would you like to see him play for the Devils? What excites you most about his game? Feel free to answer these questions or to discuss any other opinions on Hartman in the comments section below. Thanks for reading!

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Nice, thanks for the post Kirkwood.

Can never have enough hard working guys that have a nose for the net.

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LOL @ steal for Toronto.

Simply put, Bolland is trash. This is a great move for the Hawks. Bolland use to be my favorite player but it's time for the Hawks and him to go their seperate ways. Maybe a change of scenery will do Bolland some good, somewhere where he'll be a leader and looked up to.

Some Hawks fans will be upset. It's tough to see someone go so quickly after he scored the game winning goal in Game 6 but this had to be done. Bickell is more important to this team. We have young, talented centers that are looking for their turn in the big leagues. You don't just find players like Bickell growing on trees. It sucked when we lost Big Buff and we were fortunate enough to have Bickell. Hopefully the Hawks get him re-signed now.

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Holy hell, the expectations for a 3rd/4th line center just b/c he's from the GTA.

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(CBS) Soon after trading away cup-hero Dave Bolland to Toronto, the Blackhawks sent forward Michael Frolik to the Winnipeg Jets.

The Hawks received a 2013 third round pick (74th overall) and fifth rounder (134th overall) . Frolik had three goals and seven points in 23 playoff games and also had three goals and seven points in 45 regular season games.


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Won't miss him much. Good PKer but really, never lived up to his potential.

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Not sure how I feel about moving Frolik. He's the kind of guy you win championships with. Gives 110% every shift and could of been re-signed for cheaper after his contract expired next season. At the same time, we have other guys who can fill in on the PK so it's not the end of the world. This frees up more than enough money for Bickell and now I think we can get serious about discussing bringing Lecavalier here on a 1 or 2 year deal as our #2 Center.


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Not sure how I feel about moving Frolik. He's the kind of guy you win championships with. Gives 110% every shift and could of been re-signed for cheaper after his contract expired next season. At the same time, we have other guys who can fill in on the PK so it's not the end of the world. This frees up more than enough money for Bickell and now I think we can get serious about discussing bringing Lecavalier here on a 1 or 2 year deal as our #2 Center.

Yeah I like Frolik for his willingness to get after it on the PK but he was just an abomination offensively. Im sure they can scrape up a 3rd or 4th liner or a kid and sell him on the same concept.

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Is this the 2010 off-season all over again? :lol:


No. We had to get rid of all our depth that year just to put a roster out on the ice by opening day in 2011. This time around we're getting rid of our over paid players so we can re-sign and bring on more depth.


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Is this the 2010 off-season all over again? :lol:

You should hope it is. Castro hit .300 that year. :cheese:

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Hawks now have $13 million in cap room with 6 roster spots to fill. Time to play around with cap geek.


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Bickell signs for 4 years.

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FORWARDS
Bryan Bickell ($3.500m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($3.500m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Brandon Saad ($0.894m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.578m) / Ben Smith ($0.563m)
Jeremy Morin ($0.887m) / Marcus Kruger ($1.100m) / Jimmy Hayes ($0.875m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Brandon Bollig ($0.575m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.383m)
Michal Rozsival ($2.000m) / Nick Leddy ($1.500m)
Sheldon Brookbank ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Antti Raanta ($1.400m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,109,295; BONUSES: $747,500
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Was trading Bolland and resigning Bickell for 4 years the right move?

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Hawks have to be tempting for Lecavalier. He said he doesn't want to play in his home city of Montreal because of the media and fans. He wouldn't have to be the #1 guy here, which seems to be what he wants. He'll be getting paid around 30-40 million from Tampa Bay in free money so it comes down to if he's willing to take a massive pay cut in order win another Cup. Depends on how bad he wants it.

If he's asking for too much, Hawks could consider Briere who is another guy getting paid a good amount of free money from the team that bought him out. Lecavalier should definitley be the #1 option. He's 6'4, a better two way player and has won a Cup before. Briere is tiny and an underachiever in the regular season but he's a PPG in the playoffs and I don't think he'd slack during the regular season on this team. He's a wonderful playmaker that would gel well with this team, in my opinion. Briere would definitley be cheaper to obtain. I'd be fine with either on a 1 or 2 year deal until Pirri or Leblanc are really ready to be full time NHL centers.

I trust Stan at this point. If he wants to go after neither and thinks our young center talent is ready now, I'll trust his opinion. He's a two time Cup winning GM and I'm a poster on a forum who plays too many video games.


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Was trading Bolland and resigning Bickell for 4 years the right move?

Dont think youll get anything less than an enthusiastic yes from most of the dudes here, though I dont think Bickell is the be all end all by any means. Had a nice playoff run but he has a lot to prove. If he plays with Kane and Toews he really should be expected to put 30 goals. If they can get a legit number 2 center they gonna be a bitch to beat in a 7 game series for a few years.

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