Only behind MJ and Pippen as far as greatest champion athletes this city has ever seen. Toews will eventually pass Pippen. Kane might.

They're only 24. They can get 3 or 4 more cups before it's over.

I suppose you can throw Hosa in the mix too. Some might even say he's better than Kane. But drafted guys like Kane and Toews mean more to Chicago fans. Especially since they were the foundation to what to what the Hawks have now. They were the worst team in pro sports when the Hawks drafted them. Hosa jumped on what they created.

Are you excluding Payton because he only one once?

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Kane is a douchebag. Toews will be the more popular Hawk long term.

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Yes. I said greatest champion players. 2 beats 1. Even I know that. They both can get more.

Tinker, Evers, and Chance.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Kash, and Don

I can tell you this, there aren't two champions out there who grow worse beards. Kane looks like he is in his 40s and Toews looks like he has bodies stashed in a crawlspace with those things.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Kane is going to look like chris elliot when he finishes going bald. Toews could walk on the set of amish mafia right now.

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The latter point, perhaps.

To the former point - I haven't heard any dbag stories from Kaner in a while. I think he's growing out of it. I don't think he makes the HUGE strides on ice without retooling himself off ice to a similar degree.

This post will be endlessly quotes now for the next 3 months with awful Kaner stories, ending with him running over himself while punching a Buffalo taxi cab.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

it's not a proper hockey celebration without the official Beardown thread out there for us to avoid all of the riff-raff who talk sports in those peasant threads.

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Easy to forget his age at the time of the baggery, too.


I mean, if getting drunk and being an asshole on a college campus and punching a cab driver (who was likely asking for it; they all are) is your worst.......You're fine.

So Kane had some issues as a young guy in the limelight. Who the fuck cares? He is growing out of it. You can tell it in his interviews. Like last night when he was interviewed about the MVP playoff deal he said right away that he thought Crawford deserved it. That doesn't happen a couple years back.

Toews and Kane are a great great thing for Chicago. I hope we get to enjoy them playing together for a long long time.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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He was what 21 or 22? I'm sure most people did dumb shit and got hammered on a college campus at that age. He was in the spotlight and most others are not. He seems to have matured which one would expect. Its not like he is fucking jeff reed pulling that shit at age 35. Then you are a douchebag.

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Kane being a douchebag while Toews being the good one is a myth. The cab incident was unfortunate but young people make mistakes. He also likes to drink and have fun, I don't see an issue with that. Kane is a very sociable and likeable guy. The kind of guy who will not only give an autograph to anyone who asks but also talk to you for a few minutes. Both are nice guys and neither are douchebags but you're more likely to get a cold shoulder from Toews than you are Kane.

Don't rewrite history. There are a ton of Kane stories out there. The Blackhawks supposedly had to go as far as have a sit down meeting with him about his off the ice behavior.

Congratulations to Kane for not being a jerk for 6 months. Let's wait a little longer before we blame his past on immaturity alone.

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Are there stories that cant be chalked up to youthful ignorance?

Some of them, especially supposedly choking a girl, can never really be explained away. However, eventually it can be viewed as a big mistake. We need him to be on better behavior than 6 months though.

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I thought the organization was concerned he might have an alcohol problem and that his family and close associates enabled the behavior

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Playing in Europe this past Fall with his Mommy in tow was telling at the time. Glad he's taking responsibility.

btw...he's still young enough that his parents have a fair amount of influence. I'm sure Mom wasn't too happy about the Madison, WI stuff.

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80% of NHL players have alcohol problems. What are you gonna do? You just hope they're smart alcoholics. Get cabs. Don't fight. Don't rape. Most NHL players are smart boozers. The hockey hall of fame is filled with alcoholics.

Nah, he's a good guy.

Are you a Kane groupie?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Choking women is all part of being an athlete. Doesn't count.

Brandon Marshall hasn't even won anything in Chicago and "we" think he's a decent guy. Kane has 2 Stanley Cups, I think he'd literally have to kill someone to become a bad guy.

Curry and Chandler
Prior and Wood
Grossman and Haynes

I've heard they are both douchebaggy, Toews less so. I couldn't stand Kane the last few years. I think he is coming around though. I half way cheer for him now.

Kaner!!!!!! Kid still knows how to party!!!

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2 Cups, Conn Smythe, Calder and he's 24. Drink up kid, just don't get arrested.

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Team Cutler.

I tend to agree. Kaner has done some dumb shit before, but who amongst us didn't do some dumb shit in our teens and early 20s? Kane seems to have sorted himself out a bit and is starting to grow up, which is what you'd expect. If he does something ridiculously stupid like murdering someone or raping someone then that changes things, but I'm not going to fault the guy for doing some stupid shit as a kid. I'm 29 and I know I've certainly done some dumb stuff before as I was growing up, and I'd like to think I'm still a pretty good guy.

Just in case we needed a little more evidence as to how much of a tool LeBron is...