Ole Sonny made his cash.

It's weird how much it seems that the long vilified Sonny Cox gave so much more of a damn about the kids than the current guys do.

But he also got his kids in college and looked out for them if some of them lost their ways.

It's weird how much it seems that the long vilified Sonny Cox gave so much more of a damn about the kids than the current guys do.

You're right.

Paid for Johnny Selvie's attorney and helped insure that he would have some semblance of a nornal life.

When he was involved with sports administration he helped get jobs for a number of ex players

I loved Sonny, I just didn't like how he always spun it that it was the white ref's fault when his teams underachieved.

CPS screwed Sonny over by changing King HS' mission and pushing him aside. If he had coached at a place like Evanston, he'd be as revered as Gene P. over at St. Joe.

Morgan Park is the most glaring example of everything that is wrong with HS basketball. Then their coach cries on twitter about how unfair the McDonald's All-American game is because they allow 20 year old held back prep school players. He gets to hide out in 3a so he will probably win state again.

I love how Depaul prep chose to play up so they could avoid Orr. Probably the right decision.

I loved Sonny, I just didn't like how he always spun it that it was the white ref's fault when his teams underachieved.

CPS screwed Sonny over by changing King HS' mission and pushing him aside. If he had coached at a place like Evanston, he'd be as revered as Gene P. over at St. Joe.

There were 4 high profile kids that transferred from Catholic to Public this year. None of the 4 had much going in terms of their recruitment. There weren't a lot of offers if any while they played in the Catholic League. They were all about to be Seniors. The second that they transferred to the Public League their recruitment took off.

One of the kids just signed with Mizzou the other day. The Public League coaches honestly helped insure that these kids would play basketball in college.

The Irvins get a lot flak and some of it is well deserved. I can point to a number of instances in which they have helped kids, Ayo included. If Ayo would have remained at Westinghouse he never would have been top 30. I'm convinced of that.

In addition is the coach at Westinghouse. He was only there to coach his son. Once his son graduated he quit. They had a 6'6 kid that was easily a Division 1 prospect. He was without a school at the end of his Senior year.

The same can be said for Catbolic School coaches too. For whatever reason their kids aren't heavily recruited. I think it has to do with the lack of marketing that the kids receive when they play in the Catholic League.

Pingatore gets his kids in college but a lot of the other coaches don't.

The Irvins put their kids in college more often than not.

I don't agree with all of their tactics but i love the results.

That's not really true.

Commander picked up offers in July off of AAU.

Chase Adams seemed to have peaked in junior high. Saw he had offers from UIC and Chicago st. He will a state title this year though.

Pinson got a better offer, but was committed to Kent St before he transferred.

Walker had offers from Depaul and U of I as a Soph at St. Joes. Don't think that has changed much since he left.

So I guess one of the four did better.

Commander didn't receive a single offer while he played at Marist. Definitely not a Division 1 offer. I'm aware of his AAU situation. Very well aware of it. Curie didn't do it but Neither did Marist.

Pinson received a few low major offfers. Those offers were a result of AAU also.

His recruitment took off once he got with Simeon.

All of his offers were a result of AAU prior to Simeon also. Not St. Pats.

I already stated that Pingatore gets his kids in College so Walker is a non starter.

As far as Chase goes he obviously didnt peak if UIC offerred him once he left MC. He had no offers while at MC either.

This despite playing and starting on Varsity for 3 years.

None of the kids that i named received offers as a result of playing for their (Catholic) high school team. That is a problem.

AAU is what drives things at all of these places. THT did not blow up until AAU this past Spring and Summer. Not due to his play at Simeon.


Commander received no offers based on his play at Curie. He would have been in the same situation had he been back at Marist.

Pinson has done better, but is it because he looks better playing at Simeon and he ends up getting exposed next year?That has happened to many Simeon players over the past 15 years. I really don't know but will find out a year from now.

Chase Adams was just a guy at Marian. Haven't seen him this year at Orr. Maybe its coaching, maybe its getting past his personal issues or maybe he looks better with the talent they have at Orr.

MOST kids get offers from playing AAU. Period.

Simply saying period doesn't mean it is true. Unless you have specific examples then you really don't know what you're talking about.

It is true, and I do know what I'm talking about. It's a very short list of big conference scholarship hoops players that don't play AAU.

On a different note, DePaul Academy didn't "choose" to move up to avoid Orr. The IHSA moved them up. Private schools get penalized for winning regionals and sectionals.

On a different note, DePaul Academy didn't "choose" to move up to avoid Orr. The IHSA moved them up. Private schools get penalized for winning regionals and sectionals.

Depaul prep chose to move up.

http://www.ihsa.org/NewsMedia/Announcem ... inals.aspx


2. The Board heard a report on schools who have filed waivers to play up a State Series classification. All waivers require a two-year commitment. The schools, sports, new class, and applicable years on each waiver are listed below:
School Sport New Class Years
Chicago (DePaul College Prep) Boys Basketball 3A 2017-18 & 2018-19
Chicago (Phillips) Football 5A 2017-18 & 2018-19
East St. Louis (H.S.) Football 7A 2017-18 & 2018-19

to what do you attribute it, ltg?

Is it experienced coaches who think of it as part of their job to seek out college offers? Is it the competition in the conference? Is it the exposure of the name brand programs?

Depaul prep chose to move up.

http://www.ihsa.org/NewsMedia/Announcem ... inals.aspx


2. The Board heard a report on schools who have filed waivers to play up a State Series classification. All waivers require a two-year commitment. The schools, sports, new class, and applicable years on each waiver are listed below:
School Sport New Class Years
Chicago (DePaul College Prep) Boys Basketball 3A 2017-18 & 2018-19
Chicago (Phillips) Football 5A 2017-18 & 2018-19
East St. Louis (H.S.) Football 7A 2017-18 & 2018-19

Yeah I don't where we got that Info from. Kleinschmidt from what I understood felt he'd have a deeper run if he moved up.

Got to know him a little bit when I coached his neice in AAU. He has never been one to shy away from competition.

Depaul's pretty stacked going forward. Their freshman front line went 6'7, 6'6 and 6'4.