I hear that Orr and Uplift will be moving down to 1A next year.

The enrollment of both schools is extremely low but Orr really needs to be 3A if anything. At least until Lou leaves anyway. They really are going to run through 1A. Uplift should be no lower than 2A.

Orr's enrollment is only 387.

I was surprised to see that. Uplift is only 303.

Orr's enrollment is only 387.

I was surprised to see that. Uplift is only 303.

And that figure pertains to enrollment from the beginning of the year. I'm certain that Orr probably only has about 200-250 students showing up on any given day. Between kids dropping out and kids being truant there aren't many that show up.

Charters have taken a toll, as has blacks leaving the state. Schools like Orr have been fighting a losing battle for years because of it.

They have been turned around twice. As far as Uplift goes I will always think of them as the beefed up Elementary School that it is.

I was considering a teaching job at Orr in 2009.

A friend talked me out of it. One of the reasons was the truancy numbers that you posted.

The enrollment of both schools is extremely low but Orr really needs to be 3A if anything. At least until Lou leaves anyway. They really are going to run through 1A. Uplift should be no lower than 2A.

Morgan Park gets to hide in 3a basketball too. IHSA should have implemented the success factor to all schools not just private. Rochester does the same thing in football.

The states top freshmen AJ Casey is transferring from Simeon and heading back to his home school Tinley Park. You don't see that very often.

The states top freshmen AJ Casey is transferring from Simeon and heading back to his home school Tinley Park. You don't see that very often.

The enrollment of both schools is extremely low but Orr really needs to be 3A if anything. At least until Lou leaves anyway. They really are going to run through 1A. Uplift should be no lower than 2A.

Enrollment is low just like your IQ, buddy!

It looks like Milford will be in 3A this year, but a lot of their Valley Conference foes will be competing in 2A such as Goshen, New Thayer and Tilden. The Mudlarks are young but they found some real talent at with sophomore center Marcell Irby. Tune in to WDIG for all the Mudlark hardwood action next season!

Your trolling efforts don't pack quite the punch that they used to Someguy.

The states top freshmen AJ Casey is transferring from Simeon and heading back to his home school Tinley Park. You don't see that very often.

Surprised he didn't transfer to Hillcrest.

Hillcrest has a good basketball program but it is a terrible school.

Hillcrest is better academically than Simeon but the kid actually lives in Tinley Parks boundaries.

The fallacy you must play at Simeon to play high level basketball is ridiculous. That place churns out 3 or 4 d1 athletes a year and most do not make it once they leave Simeon. While I agree there is a good chance he ends up at a year round AAU (Im not calling those places prep schools, they do not do any classwork), playing at Tinley will not matter much in the long run as he plays high level AAU 8 months out of the year.

If he lives in TP boundaries, was he commuting to Simeon every day? That seems like a significant grind.

This is silly. Everyone thinks about Rose and Parker but they have placed other guys in the NBA. Nunn was in the league last year. Kendall Pollard either made it or nearly made it. The Kid at UCLA has been in tryout camps. Talen Horton will get drafted and Norvell has a chance to get drafted. Each of these guys developed while playing high level Ball at Simeon.

You can play high level ball at other places. Tinley Park isn't one of them.

AAU isn't going to help him from a developmental standpoint. Those are glorified pickup games.

Kendrick Nunn was in the G-League last season and was signed for next season on a non-guranteed three year deal for the minimum the last day of the season this year. He might not make it through training camp. THT blew up on the AAU circuit the summer before senior year. That being said, have Simeon players over or under achieved at the college level the last 15 years?

So Iowa St gets no credit for developing THT this year?

Anthony Davis played at Perspectives. How did he end up surviving at the next level?

Anthony Davis is an anomaly.

As far as Talen Horton goes there isn't an Iowa State without Robert Smith. By the way he "blew up" on the AAU circuit after switching over to a team in which his high school coach was affiliated.

Just like AYO would never had been top 30 and a future NBA prospect if he would have remained at Westinghouse.

If this kid remains at Tinley Park over the course of the next 3 years I can assure you that he will not be a top 50 player. He will not get pushed in practice nor games and as such his development will be stunted.