OldSchoolScoreFan wrote:
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I will address your idiotic post point by point.
1. Stories in the sports section have nothing to do with circulation? Are you serious? You have to be joking. You must be in management for the Tribune if you believe it is true because it is that type of thinking that has got them in the trouble they are in.
OK..not nothing, but very little. Times they are a changing. You want big newspaper numbers, go take a time machine back to the Spanish American War.
2. Your alumni/fan stats...Where did you get these numbers from? Is there a link?
Dont have raw data. If you read my post, you will see that I said that Illinois has more alums. Notre Dame care more about their football team. Lets use these numbers as examples...
Lets say that the Chicagoland area has 100,000 Illinois Alums, maybe 20,000 of these alums would read an article about the football team. If Chicago has 50,000 ND alums, 30,000 of them would read about the football team. Look at the amount of dontations that ND gets to their athletic program and the amount of donations that Illinois gets.
3. Maybe more people get their sports info from TV and the Internet for the precise reason that the Trib et al are sucking up to a team from Indiana; i.e., they are not catering to the actual newspaper buying audience.
No, its conveinence. It is just easier to log on the web. People do not read that much into 50 cent purchases. They dont think to buy a newspaper because they just read it online at work.
4. The Trib does a shitty job covering Illinois and DePaul basketball. They have a beat writer and that is about it. Don't even go there.
What does this have to do with the arugment? I never said the coverage was good. I just said it was there. For the record, I read the Daily Herald and Suntimes before I read the trib (all online for free) beacause of better prep sports coverage and better columnists respectively.
5. The non-ND going ND fans I see working at the Cook County Circuit Court Clerk's office are not reading the Trib but the Sun-Times.
See above. ND fans are more likely to follow local sports--alums of Catholic high schools with strong alumni bases. The other two papers cover local sports a lot better. So maybe if the tribune wanted to sell more papers, they would cover prep sports better, not two big 10 doormats with virtually no significant alumni support in the circulation area.
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1. No, you are moron. The Trib is not publishing 3 ND stories on Sat for its health. It is doing it because it "thinks" that is what the newspaper reading public wants and will buy the paper to read. I am saying they are wrong and the declining circulation and ad numbers are support for this argument. Newspapers are no different than TV Networks. They produce stories/shows that they think will gain viewers. (I like how you dispute the point in #1, and then turn around and try to argue my point in #2 and in #5. Did you actually go to ND to learn such logic?)
2. Like I thought. You pulled the numbers out of your ass.
3. There are a ton of people in this area, and in the country, who do not log onto the web. The fact is people are not reading newspapers anymore for a variety of reasons, including that the Sports Sections suck.
4. I believe you are the one who brought up basketball coverage, not me. I merely responded that the Trib does a shitty job covering basketball AND football teams located in the State of Illinois.
5. I am guessing you pulled the empirical evidence supporting your point out of your ass too. The point is, the ND crowd at the Daley Center are NOT READING THE TRIBUNE, BUT THE SUN-TIMES, despite the Tribune's efforts all these years to be the SOUTHBEND TRIBUNE. Maybe if the Tribune focused on LOCAL teams in the State of Illinois, as even you suggest, it would not be in its current conundrum.
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