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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:42 pm

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Nas wrote:

Darkside we all knew Rod was a POS but a lot of you guys still voted for him. Election time was our chance to remove him from office. That is the time for change but a lot of voters voted for more of the same.

I agree. That's why I won't be voting for Rodbama Barackovich this election!

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:42 pm

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Nas wrote:

"You guys?"
OK, blew it then, know he's gotta go now, why not have a mechanism for it?
This has more riding on it than term limits and recall. That was just one issue.

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Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

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spanky

Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:49 pm

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I believe The Rod has, in effect, created his own "term limit" this time around. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:57 pm

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Nas wrote:

Who do you replace him with? Another one of his buddies that's doing the same thing? Is that change worth $80M now? This is something that can be done without the convention.

Probably Pat Quinn. No. Yes. No.

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Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:57 pm

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spanky wrote:

I believe The Rod has, in effect, created his own "term limit" this time around. :wink:

He got a second term though.

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Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:58 pm

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Darkside wrote:

4. I understand where you are coming from. But the poensions of state workers is another issue that we can really expand on in another thread. I understand that you're in effect a state worker and you are concerned about your retitrement. Don't count on the state money to be there. Get your own retiurement in order. If there pension is there when you retire that's just gravy.

I get what you mean, and I have set up additional retirement accounts. However, that doesn't mean I want my state pension - which I have been contributing to, without choice, for eleven years - to go to "waste". It would be nice if I actually received it upon retirment.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:59 pm

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Darkside wrote:

spanky wrote:

I believe The Rod has, in effect, created his own "term limit" this time around. :wink:

He got a second term though.

I gave a gratuitous :wink:

- the universal sign for sarcasm. Please do not ignore my :wink:

anymore.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:00 pm

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spanky wrote:

Darkside wrote:

spanky wrote:

I believe The Rod has, in effect, created his own "term limit" this time around. :wink:

He got a second term though.

I gave a gratuitous :wink:

- the universal sign for sarcasm. Please do not ignore my :wink:

anymore.

If he is somehow elected to another term, I'm moving to Idaho. Or Somalia - I hear Mogadishu is nice in the fall.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:00 pm

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Darkside wrote:

You pay into your own pension? I always thought they were... bequeathed?
Shit get your money out of a state pension!

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spanky

Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:05 pm

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It is deducted from each paycheck, my man - detailed on every stub. If I had a few more zeros at the end, I'd show it to you. :oops:

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:11 pm

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spanky wrote:

It is deducted from each paycheck, my man - detailed on every stub. If I had a few more zeros at the end, I'd show it to you. :oops:

Well, I guess if I have to pay for your pension, you should have to also.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:16 pm

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Darkside wrote:

spanky wrote:

It is deducted from each paycheck, my man - detailed on every stub. If I had a few more zeros at the end, I'd show it to you. :oops:

Well, I guess if I have to pay for your pension, you should have to also.

I think we're talking about different items on the paystub, but, whatever.

Have you seen the troll party in the Women/Sex/Power thread? Hey, wait aminute......

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Ungotz

Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:20 pm

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Changing the Constitution so as to be able to get rid of politicians that are incompetent is stupid. That is what elections are for. Vote "NO".

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:24 pm

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Ungotz wrote:

Changing the Constitution so as to be able to get rid of politicians that are incompetent is stupid. That is what elections are for. Vote "NO".

I agree, but there's more out there that needs to be changed. Why not hit this while working out the rest.

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Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:38 pm

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Darkside wrote:

You pay into your own pension? I always thought they were... bequeathed?

Not to revisit a dead horse, but:

I pay $234. per paycheck this year. No choice to opt out. That's why I was a little fearful of this passing.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:37 pm

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Boy, that constitutional convention could have been handy right about now.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:52 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Boy, that constitutional convention could have been handy right about now.

No - for all of the reasons listed above.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:48 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Boy, that constitutional convention could have been handy right about now.

It sure would have. They could have then passed a law that required the candidate's themselves for all rallies in Grant Park.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:20 am

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Nas wrote:

Blagojevich will be gone soon without the need for a CC.

From what I've heard, having a Credit Card helps move things along with this Governor.

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Post subject: Re: Vote "Yes" on Illinois Constitutional Convention

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:54 am

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Nas wrote:

Blagojevich will be gone soon without the need for a CC.

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