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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Since we're talking Politics...IL Governor Race |
This to me is the worst race I can remember (i'm a youngin, so cut me some slack) as far as a major vote in the state of Illinois. I can't believe just how awful our choices are this year. I need to research the third party candidate some more, but I'm leaning to him if he's decent enough (wouldn't take much) or writing in "Ditka." I say we start a "Ditka for Governor" ticket. Others who believe Rod or Judy are the way to go, please give me some factual reasons wy without sounding too biased.... |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:27 pm ] |
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I here you on that Nas! |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:27 pm ] |
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However, what are Topinka's thoughts on that? They very well may be the same. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:00 pm ] |
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is death an option? |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:03 pm ] |
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Coach, that's what I like to hear. I most likely will write in Ditka come election day. There's no way these two pieces of shit could do a better job. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:07 pm ] |
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Nas- you an LO in the city or burbs? |
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| Author: | MUScholar21 [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:34 pm ] |
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It doesn't really matter WHO you vote for, the same people still will benefit from who is governor. The most telling thing about this election was the front page of the Tribune Tuesday morning. It showed Rich Daley walking down the street in the Columbus Day parade, with Blagojevich on one side of him and Topinka on the left. When Daley doesn't favor one or the other, then you KNOW you are voting for the same person regardless. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:01 am ] |
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Nas, that's classic. I might go that route. Let's get the flyers out now. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:14 am ] |
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C'mon dude! Richard Pryor, John Candy....3 million dollars....the dad from Seventh Heaven. Classic. |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:54 am ] |
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that was a great movie... |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am ] |
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I may follow Kass's advice and actually (God forbid) vote for a democrat. If JBT gets in it will be business as usual but another 4 years of G-Rod may actually get the republicans off their ass and give us a viable canidate. Man that hurt to type. I'm not sure I'm going to able to go along with it on Nov 7th.... |
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:17 pm ] |
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Keyser: You have obviously become possessed by the devil. "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing Keyser to vote Democrat." Let me know where you live and I'll be right over with a crucifix, garlic cloves, wooden stake, and a silver bullet. In all seriousness, I could no more vote for Judy Barr Topinka than I could fly to the moon. However, my hand would probably burst into flames if I voted "D." I'll sit this one out, thank you very little. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:43 pm ] |
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Nas- I wouldn't vote for Mother Teresa if she was going to raise my taxes or sell Lake Michigan to pay for her out of control spending. They're all scumbags but I'll vote for the scumbag that believes in the same things I believe in. Not voting isn't an option for me. I was mad at Kass for a week after he wrote that article but then i realized he's probably right. Keep the crucifix and garlic cloves handy Stone. I'll probably still vote for her but I'm not happy about it. |
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| Author: | Spinnin' Bucket [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:48 pm ] |
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Quote: I believe if you don't vote you don't have a right to bitch about anything that happens.
And I believe that is a tired talking point. My decision to vote or not vote does not change the fact that we are consistently provided with dogshit candidates from both parties. |
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| Author: | Spinnin' Bucket [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:14 pm ] |
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For the record, Nas, I do vote more often than not. The problem is I am not convinced voter turnout is going to improve the pool of career politician candidates, whom I feel do not have our best interests in mind, regardless of party affiliation. |
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| Author: | Mike Mikerson [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:51 pm ] |
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I am afforded the right to complain because I pay taxes. I don't vote because I refuse to support an inherently corrupt, 2 party system that shuns outside voices. Career politicans have one objective: to get reelected. This would change if the 2 party system changed. It won't, so why should I vote? |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:05 pm ] |
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I vote most of the time as well Bucket. I agree with you. They are throwing shit at us. If we all voted it wouldn't change what type of politicians we have running. I think I am going to vote for Whitney only if I feel he is a decent candidate. Anyone know anything on this guy? |
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| Author: | Coast2Coast [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:39 pm ] |
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Quote: I believe if you don't vote you don't have a right to bitch about anything that happens.
I agree this argument is not only tired, it is dead wrong. I usually vote, but when I don't, I am not obliged to turn in my citizenship papers. I'm vested in the government and our officials regardless. I can praise them or bitch them regardless of whether I was present at the polls on one particular day. A comparable suggestion would be "if you don't attend a Bears game, you don't have a right to bitch about anything that happens in that game." Attendance at a sporting event or attendance at the polls does not define one's vested interest in what happens there. |
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| Author: | Coast2Coast [ Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:35 pm ] |
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Cost has nothing to do with my main point. Everybody is part of our society, regardless of whether they are able to vote or not. I said the situations were comparable...not exact or literal. By the way, voting can be damn expensive when people have to go out of town unexpectedly with such short notice that they can't vote absentee. You expect people to spend whatever it takes to get back to town to vote...or they relinquish their right to complain? People shouldn't have to give up their citizenship rights when some aspect of life (accident, emergency, sudden trip out of town) prevents them from getting to the polls. There are many possible reasons someone can't vote. That's one of many reasons I support expanded, flexible and early voting...which is becoming more available, but not yet commonplace in every community. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:20 pm ] |
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Once again Nas has trouble comprehending sentences. I just asked if anyone knew anything on him so I am beginning my "homework." Secondly, if you would read and comprehend what I said.... Quote: I think I am going to vote for Whitney only if I feel he is a decent candidate.
Obviously, I won't vote for him until I do homework on this guy to see if he is a decent candidate. It nowhere says, "I am voting for Whitney even if I know nothing about him. And speaking of dumb, I find it almost like a wasted vote that you are voting for Judy Baar Topinka based on solely on HB4050 has taken money out of your pocket. As if he alone came up with this legislation. It was voted across both parties to get passed. It's not like Judy is going to immediately come in here and give you your money back. I can't believe that's how you are using your vote. To me, that's just as "dumb" as you put it to not vote at all. If you truly do your homework on the candidates and they truly all suck (which right now is looking like this gov race) then who are you to tell me to vote for the piece of shit that doesn't smell as bad. The hell with that. Take a look at tomorrow's Tribune. They did a poll where they found 51% of their survey can't stand the choices for gov this year. You know the other 49% were blind loyalists to their parties. |
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| Author: | Bulldog Scott [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:26 pm ] |
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: I here you on that Nas!
Me too. |
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| Author: | Stinkfinger The Crow [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:48 pm ] |
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Quote: There has NEVER been an election that had a perfect candidate.
What about the election that put David Palmer in office? |
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:54 pm ] |
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Quote: Nas wrote: There has NEVER been an election that had a perfect candidate. I respectfully disagree. Ronald Wilson Reagan. November, 1980 and November, 1984. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:00 pm ] |
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stoneroses, you have to be kidding. Any historian would still be able to find numerous faults in Reagan no matter how much you love him or even I liked him for that matter. David Palmer = the best president ever that no real president will even be 10% the pres he was on the best action drama television show ever, 24. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:08 pm ] |
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thank you nas...i could add about 12 more things but i should probably get back to work..it is month end |
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| Author: | stoneroses86 [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:09 pm ] |
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Quote: Nas wrote: Iran-Contra. Does that ring a bell? I'm a little fuzzy on the details. Wasn't that Clinton? |
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| Author: | MUScholar21 [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:12 pm ] |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra |
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| Author: | Coast2Coast [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:14 pm ] |
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strong economic growth and job creation? Oh. you guys are too young to remember that. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... _mz011.htm |
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