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Author:  Sleuth [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:15 pm ]
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Fellas, I know a few of the regulars like Seacrest are going to miss my postings, but I'm moving to Orlando in a few days and won't be able to post too much with no personal computer. Boo! I'll check in from time to time to grace everyone with my B&B musings, but it'll be rare. This board's great, and everytime I've been down in the shit can or just having an all-around horrible day I could always log onto this board to get a few chuckles. So thanks. And if anyone's ever around the Central Florida area, maybe we can go hit a few rounds.

Author:  Mr. Reason [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:06 pm ]
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Good luck to you Crumbs. We now have one less B&B sychophant on the board, Campbell's Anthony is all that's left. You'll be back soon enough, I expect.
Why don't you find a job that pays enough so you can buy your own computer?

Author:  Sleuth [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:09 pm ]
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I'll be raking in about 35 k to start...so I will get a laptop eventually, just will be a while while i get all the other bullshit out of the way. Buy a car, get nicer furniture, TV with NFL package, gym membership, year-round pass to Disney, etc. I'll return after I leave eventually to give the verbal beatings Ike South and KS so richly deserve.

Author:  Stinkfinger The Crow [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:31 pm ]
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Good luck to you Crumbs. We now have one less B&B sychophant on the board, Campbell's Anthony is all that's left.



I'm devestated to not be included in that club, especially considering that I'm pretty sure I'm the longest tenured apologist here.

Author:  Mr. Reason [ Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:36 pm ]
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Stink, you haven't been licking enough B&B sack lately I guess.
My apologies, you sychophant you.

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:35 am ]
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October mornings like this make me question why I am still here other than the job and family....;-)

Author:  Mike Mikerson [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:53 pm ]
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Best of luck Crumbs.

Author:  Seacrest [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:46 pm ]
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Crumbs Krause wrote:
I'll be raking in about 35 k to start...so I will get a laptop eventually, just will be a while while i get all the other bullshit out of the way. Buy a car, get nicer furniture, TV with NFL package, gym membership, year-round pass to Disney, etc. I'll return after I leave eventually to give the verbal beatings Ike South and KS so richly deserve.


Crumbs:

I have an old laptop, that needs a little work, that I would be happy to send with you. No joke at all. Send me an e-mail at sparky0105@hotmail.com and if you live close, I'll drop it off.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:12 pm ]
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It's a Festivus miracle!!!

Author:  MUScholar21 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:19 pm ]
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Doug vs. good dolphin in the Feats of Strength

Image

Author:  NotInTheBiz [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:27 pm ]
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have an old laptop, that needs a little work, that I would be happy to send with you. No joke at all. Send me an e-mail at sparky0105@hotmail.com and if you live close, I'll drop it off.


I wonder what kind of pictures you will find on a laptop used by "sparky anything"?

Author:  Seacrest [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:30 pm ]
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NotInTheBiz wrote:
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have an old laptop, that needs a little work, that I would be happy to send with you. No joke at all. Send me an e-mail at sparky0105@hotmail.com and if you live close, I'll drop it off.


I wonder what kind of pictures you will find on a laptop used by "sparky anything"?


Get your mind out of the gutter and back on the curb.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:22 pm ]
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good luck Crumbs...

MUS....what?
I suppose if i watched that show the joke would make sense.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 pm ]
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Sigh....You know you're getting old when you have to explain Seinfeld references.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:11 pm ]
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From Wikipedia:

Festivus is a nondenominational holiday featured in "The Strike" episode of Seinfeld, a popular American television sitcom of the 1990s. The holiday was a plot device in the episode, which first aired on December 18, 1997. Many people, influenced or inspired by Seinfeld, now celebrate the holiday, in varying degrees of seriousness. Some do it religiously; others do it with good tidings in their respect to Seinfeld.

According to Seinfeld, Festivus is celebrated each year on December 23, but many people celebrate it other times, often in early December. Its slogan is "A Festivus for the rest of us!" An aluminium pole is generally used in lieu of a Christmas tree or other holiday decoration, shedding holiday materialism. Those attending participate in the "Airing of Grievances" which is an opportunity for all to vent their hostilities toward each other, and after a Festivus dinner, The Feats of Strength are performed. Traditionally, Festivus is not over until the head of the household is wrestled to the floor and "pinned."

"The Strike"
The character Frank Costanza (played by Jerry Stiller) created Festivus as an alternative holiday in response to the commercialization of Christmas. Frank Costanza explained its origins during the episode to the character Cosmo Kramer (played by Michael Richards), as related in the following dialogue:

Frank Costanza: Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way.
Cosmo Kramer: What happened to the doll?
Frank Costanza: It was destroyed. But out of that a new holiday was born … a Festivus for the rest of us!
Cosmo Kramer: That must've been some kind of doll.
Frank Costanza: She was.

In the episode, Kramer became interested in resurrecting the holiday after hearing the plight of his friend—Frank Costanza's son—George (played by Jason Alexander), who used the holiday celebration he hated in his youth as a defensive excuse to his employer, Kruger (played by Daniel von Bargen). George had been confronted by Kruger after handing out cards for Christmas to his fellow employees stating a donation had been made to a fake charity (invented by George) called The Human Fund (with the slogan "Money For People") in lieu of exchanging Christmas presents. George defended himself saying that he feared persecution for his beliefs, for not celebrating Christmas. Attempting to call his bluff, Kruger came home with George to see Festivus in action.

Kramer, also invited to the celebration, goes on strike from his bagel vendor job, when his manager tells him he can't get time off for "Festivus." Kramer is then seen on the street with a sign which reads "Festivus yes! Bagels no!"

Main elements of Festivus

The Airing of Grievances: The Festivus celebration as described on Seinfeld includes four major components:

The Festivus Pole: The Costanzas' tradition begins with an aluminum pole, which Frank praises for its "very high strength-to-weight ratio." During Festivus, the unadorned Festivus Pole is displayed. The pole was chosen apparently in opposition to the commercialization of highly decorated Christmas trees, because it is "very low-maintenance," and also because the holiday's patron, Frank Costanza, "find[s] tinsel distracting."
Festivus dinner: In "The Strike," a celebratory dinner is shown on the evening of Festivus prior to the Feats of Strength. The on-air meal appeared to be meat loaf or spaghetti in a red sauce. In Festivus: The Holiday for the Rest of Us by Allen Salkin, drinking is encouraged with hearty beer, rum, bourbon, or wine. In the episode, no alcohol was served, but George Costanza's boss, Mr. Kreuger, drank from a flask.
The Airing of Grievances: At the beginning of the Festivus dinner, each participant tells friends and family of all the instances where they disappointed him or her that year. As quoted from Frank Costanza: "I've got a lot of problems with you people, and now you're going to hear about it!"
The Feats of Strength: After the dinner, the head of the family tests his or her strength against one participant of the head's choosing. Festivus is not considered over until the head of the family has been pinned to the ground. A participant is allowed to decline to attempt to pin the head of the family only if they have something better to do instead.

The Festivus Miracle
Although it is not an official element of the holiday or its celebration, the phenomenon of the Festivus Miracle is mentioned several times in the original episode. Kramer causes the occurrence of two "miracles" by inviting two betting-window operators to dinner with Elaine (men whom Elaine wished to avoid), and by causing Jerry's girlfriend Gwen to believe that Jerry was cheating on her. On these occasions, Kramer enthusiastically declared, "It's a Festivus miracle!"

Author:  Seacrest [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:20 pm ]
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stoneroses86 wrote:
Sigh....You know you're getting old when you have to explain Seinfeld references.


One of the funniest Sienfeld's of all.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:54 pm ]
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Sigh....You know you're getting old when you have to explain Seinfeld references.

One of the funniest Sienfeld's of all.


an oxymoron if i ever read one.

Seinfeld's whole deal was that it was a show about nothing.....he was absolutely right. nothing there at all....

Author:  MUScholar21 [ Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:18 pm ]
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Okay, theres a lot to address here, so bear with me.

1) Yes, it is a Seinfeld reference, and thanks to stones for sparing me from having to explain the entire Festivus tradition.

2) How a "fairly regular Seinfeld viewer" doesn't know Festivus is beyond me. Start watching more frequently over the next month or two - the Festivus episode will be on at least 3 dozen times, considering how often Seinfeld is played

3) The "show about nothing" is taken completely out of context. It was a show about something, but it defied an explanation. It was a show of regular, everyday events and mundane situations that every person goes through on a regular basis. The show mocked and expounded on uncomfortable things like race (should we be talking about this?), homosexuality (not that there's anything wrong with that), interracial dating (let's go shop at the Gap), and other larger issues in a way that was topical, and also mocked the typical uptight, middle class perspective on it. It also made conversations that you and your friends/coworkers have all the time into a bigger, funnier, hyperbolic situation; things like germaphobes, celebrating birthdays in the office for people you don't know, and the overly elaborate explanations in a store catalog are things that are foolish and laughable things, especially after being embellished or elaborated on. The fact that this show and Friends are compared on a regular basis is disgusting - Friends is a low form of sitcom, Seinfeld is art and educated humor, not to mention groundbreaking.

Okay, now you may bash me for pontificating on this subject, but it had to be said - it has been building up in me for years.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:49 am ]
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the same could be said about the simpsons....except the simpsons is a much better show.

Author:  MUScholar21 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:07 am ]
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The Simpsons (which I am also a huge fan of, although with the crappy new episodes of the last three years, much less so than before) is a different kind of groundbreaking, and also a different kind of humor. Seinfeld has even more subtle jokes than The Simpsons, and relies more on the absurdities of everyday life, whereas The Simpsons creates the absurdities it relies on for jokes. But they do play with a lot of the same things - for example, the Simpsons did a sendoff of the "Lord of the Flies," while Seinfeld did "JFK." However, for Seinfeld that was more of a departure than for the Simpsons, who rely on sendoffs like that.

Look, I'm not saying you have to like Seinfeld, but I just don't like the whole "show about nothing" as a degrading term - that term is more a testament to its originality than its actual plots or characters. When people who don't enjoy the show use it as a strike against the show, it aggravates me - it sells the show short (its a tremendous slouch) and uses a term of endearment as an insult, without actually understanding that it IS a term of endearment.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:19 am ]
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jeez Paul....go back to work already. :wink:

Author:  NotInTheBiz [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:33 am ]
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things like germaphobes, celebrating birthdays in the office for people you don't know, and the overly elaborate explanations in a store catalog are things that are foolish and laughable things, especially after being embellished or elaborated on


I was reminded Sunday, thanks to LaSalle Bank's nincompoopery, of the Marathon episode. This is the one set around a race party. "you're all winners!!" is a great line. Hilarious.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:35 am ]
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Once again, the Mighty Scholar has lived up to his name! Brilliant dissection of a brilliant show.

Author:  MUScholar21 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:36 am ]
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I'm currently having my desk fixed to include drawers for a coffee mug and an alarm clock - oh wait, you don't watch Seinfeld....

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:38 am ]
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Will there be any face painters at Game 3? "El diablo!"

Oh, by the way, how did Crumbs Krause's tearful goodbye turn into a Seinfeld thread? Oh well, good luck Crumbs.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:57 am ]
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Oh, by the way, how did Crumbs Krause's tearful goodbye turn into a Seinfeld thread?


Because he's moving to Del Boca Vista phase II.

Author:  stoneroses86 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:09 am ]
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Del Boca Vista!

I would like for everybody to please picture me Laughing Out Loud!

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