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Seacrest would usually start the thread, but he is in the corner in the fetal position realizing that the Pope says the same things as Obama.


:lol: :lol:

My entire business is based upon the the principles set forth in Laudato Si.

Good to see that you and Obama came around to our way of thinking 10 years later.

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I saw a clip of the Pope being greeted by the Obama family at Andrews. All I could focus on is how much bigger and shelf-like Michelle's ass has gotten.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Seacrest would usually start the thread, but he is in the corner in the fetal position realizing that the Pope says the same things as Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-francis-is-a-fake-20150922-story.html


https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/po ... 35285.html

In the middle of his trip to Washington, D.C., Pope Francis made an "unschedued" stop to meet with members of an group of nuns suing the federal government over the Obama administration's contraception and abortifacient mandate in the health-care law. The Little Sisters of the Poor is an order of nuns within the Catholic Church that provides assistance for the elderly, and the group has sued on religious liberty grounds against the Obama administration mandate that employers provide contraception health-insurance coverage

...the Holy Father made his visit with the nuns as a "sign of support" for their religious liberty fight.

During the pope's appearance at the White House earlier Wednesday, [b]President Obama said the United States[/b] "stands" with Francis "in defense of religious freedom."

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:33 pm 
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Seacrest wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Seacrest would usually start the thread, but he is in the corner in the fetal position realizing that the Pope says the same things as Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-francis-is-a-fake-20150922-story.html


https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/po ... 35285.html

In the middle of his trip to Washington, D.C., Pope Francis made an "unschedued" stop to meet with members of an group of nuns suing the federal government over the Obama administration's contraception and abortifacient mandate in the health-care law. The Little Sisters of the Poor is an order of nuns within the Catholic Church that provides assistance for the elderly, and the group has sued on religious liberty grounds against the Obama administration mandate that employers provide contraception health-insurance coverage

...the Holy Father made his visit with the nuns as a "sign of support" for their religious liberty fight.

During the pope's appearance at the White House earlier Wednesday, [b]President Obama said the United States[/b] "stands" with Francis "in defense of religious freedom."


If they are not taking federal aid to run their organization I could see their argument. If you take the money you have no leg to stand on. The Arch Diocese has been exempt in the state of Illinois from providing coverage for fertility and preventive measures since I worked for them.

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conns7901 wrote:
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Don Tiny wrote:
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Seacrest would usually start the thread, but he is in the corner in the fetal position realizing that the Pope says the same things as Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-francis-is-a-fake-20150922-story.html


https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/po ... 35285.html

In the middle of his trip to Washington, D.C., Pope Francis made an "unschedued" stop to meet with members of an group of nuns suing the federal government over the Obama administration's contraception and abortifacient mandate in the health-care law. The Little Sisters of the Poor is an order of nuns within the Catholic Church that provides assistance for the elderly, and the group has sued on religious liberty grounds against the Obama administration mandate that employers provide contraception health-insurance coverage

...the Holy Father made his visit with the nuns as a "sign of support" for their religious liberty fight.

During the pope's appearance at the White House earlier Wednesday, [b]President Obama said the United States[/b] "stands" with Francis "in defense of religious freedom."


If they are not taking federal aid to run their organization I could see their argument. If you take the money you have no leg to stand on. The Arch Diocese has been exempt in the state of Illinois from providing coverage for fertility and preventive measures since I worked for them.


What are they receiving government aid for?

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you don't call having a direct line with God real power ?


Not with this Pope.


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chicago archdiocese has about 80,000 kids in school. CPS spends about $14,000 per kid. That's a lot of dough. way more than the property taxes would be.

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Jorge Mario is a left-wing pawn. Look at what happened yesterday on his D.C. route. A little Mexican immigrant girl is allowed to run onto the street to get close to him. So they stage the Pope embracing her to show his support for Obama's amnesty aim.

Just by seeing Obama, Jorge Mario nullified himself as an credible religious figure. He did it again by injecting himself into the U.S. presidential race, taking the side of the liberals.

As far as I'm concerned, Jorge Mario is illegitimate as long as Pope Benedict is still alive.


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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.

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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.
It is because it is about controlling others.

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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.



How so?

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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.



How so?
Because, just like your hero Kim Davis, there objection would be known and they wouldn't be signing off on it while still letting it happen.

Or, have you forgotten about that justification?

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Seacrest wrote:
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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.



How so?


They don't have to provide or fund contraception to their employees. Yet they are objecting to stating they object to providing these services.

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who's eating the cost of the coverage?

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I could listen to this guy read the phone book.

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Seacrest would usually start the thread, but he is in the corner in the fetal position realizing that the Pope says the same things as Obama.


Since when is Obama anti-capitalist?

The Pope is way more radical than any Republican or Democrat currently holding elected office in the federal government.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/25/us/pope-francis-congress-speech.html

(a somewhat lengthy article ... too long to post here as I normally would without it being a wall of text)

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conns7901 wrote:
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Under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, religious-affiliated organizations do not have to provide contraception to their employees, but they do need to sign a form affirming their objection, which then forces the insurer or an outside health plan administrator to provide separate birth control coverage. The Justice Department responded to Sotomayor's stay by saying that this opt-out provision is sufficient enough protection for religious organizations.

"With the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this Court – an exemption from the requirements of the contraceptive-coverage provision," the U.S. Solicitor General wrote in a motion filed last Friday. The nuns contend that even signing a form stating their objection would result in employees obtaining contraceptive coverage, indirectly making the nuns responsible for such coverage.


This is ridiculous on the nuns part.



How so?


They don't have to provide or fund contraception to their employees. Yet they are objecting to stating they object to providing these services.



If they are paying for the insurance, then they are paying for the health services, no?

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If they are paying for the insurance, then they are paying for the health services, no?
No. The coverage is separate.

Just like how Kim Davis "got her way" when marriage licenses can be granted to gay people as long as her name isn't on it.

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The government has refused to simply exempt the Little Sisters—even though it exempts churches and other religious organizations.

The government still forces the Little Sisters to find an insurer who will cover sterilization, contraceptive and abortion-inducing drugs and devices, and will provide related counseling and education to promote those things. The Sisters would also be required to sign a form that triggers the start of that coverage. In good conscience, they can’t do that.

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In good conscience, they can’t do that.


in good conscience can they go fuck themselves ?


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The government has refused to simply exempt the Little Sisters—even though it exempts churches and other religious organizations.

The government still forces the Little Sisters to find an insurer who will cover sterilization, contraceptive and abortion-inducing drugs and devices, and will provide related counseling and education to promote those things. The Sisters would also be required to sign a form that triggers the start of that coverage. In good conscience, they can’t do that.
Why do they get to control what their employees do with their own money?

What is the difference between this and if an employee bought a separate insurance policy that covered those things? What is the difference if their employee simply went and bought them with money earned?

You keep on moving the goalposts. Before, it was about not wanting to PAY for them. Now, it is simply about an employee using their earned benefits to get them.

As for the exemptions, I'd get rid of them for those other groups too.

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