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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:07 am 
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I have no horse in this race. I do not own a single firearm…never have, and likely never will. That’s my choice and right. My step-son has shotguns and that’s fine with me, too. History has taught us a few things
1) The 2nd amendment will stand and we do have the right to bear arms
2) They could make all guns illegal and they will still find their way into the hands of civilians

I personally am fine with making automatic and semi-automatic firearms illegal to civilians, but do not believe it will change much. They will still be around through the underground or these morons will use bombs or other guns or something else.

This debate is senseless. This is political grandstanding, nothing more.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:55 am 
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Semi automatic illegal? Christ that's every handgun other than a single action wheel gun.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:26 pm 
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At least the Golden Gun would still be legal.

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Darkside wrote:
Semi automatic illegal? Christ that's every handgun other than a single action wheel gun.

it won't happen....I'm just saying I don't care and it won't make any difference.

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Hawaii’s governor signed a bill making it the first U.S. state to place its residents who own firearms in a federal criminal record database and monitor them for possible wrongdoing anywhere in the country, his office said.

The move by gun control proponents in the liberal state represents an effort to institute some limits on firearms in the face of a bitter national debate over guns that this week saw Democratic lawmakers stage a sit-in at the U.S. House of Representatives.


Hawaii Governor David Ige, a Democrat, on Thursday signed into law a bill to have police in the state enroll people into an FBI criminal monitoring service after they register their firearms as already required, his office said in a statement.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation database called “Rap Back” will allow Hawaii police to be notified when a firearm owner from the state is arrested anywhere in the United States.

Hawaii has become the first U.S. state to place firearm owners on the FBI’s Rap Back, which until now was used to monitor criminal activities by individuals under investigation or people in positions of trust such as school teachers and daycare workers

“As you can imagine, the NRA finds this one of the most extreme bills we’ve ever seen,” said Amy Hunter, a spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association’s institute for legislative action.

The law could affect gun owners outside Hawaii, because the state requires visitors carrying guns to register, Hunter said.

As a result, they could be added to “Rap Back” with no clear protocol for being removed, she said.


Hawaii state Senator Will Espero, a Democrat and a co-author of the law who owns a gun, called the law “common sense legislation that does not hurt anyone.”

The law, which takes effect immediately, allows police in Hawaii to evaluate whether a firearm owner should continue to possess a gun after being arrested.

“This bill, it doesn’t even say your gun will automatically be taken away, it just means local police will be notified,” Espero said in a phone interview.

Ige’s office said he also signed into law two other firearms bills. One makes convictions for stalking and sexual assault among the criminal offenses disqualifying a person from gun ownership. The other requires firearm owners to surrender their weapons if diagnosed with a mental, behavioral or emotional disorder.

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