WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I just provided an article which backs up my claim regarding Kennedys involvement in the operation. The operation doesn't occur if Kennedy doesn't provide the go ahead. You have already been discredited in your claim that the CIA ordered the invasion. Now you are claiming that Kennedy admitted to being tricked. Even if he was tricked it still backs up the fact that he ordered the invasion. The invasion doesn't occur with his approval.
You are sounding foolish by providing all of these different rationales as to why it happened. You didn't even know about Eisenhower''s role in all of it. Kennedy wanted Castro gone . So much so that he strongly considered using the mob to do it. If he didn't want Castro dead do you think that the CIA would have gone to such great lengths to get rid of him?
You are flat out lying now to make a ridiculous point.
The CIA planned the invasion. Whose plan was it? I said Kennedy approved the operation, but it was under false pretenses. What point are you trying to make anymore other than trying to be insulting?
If the CIA serves the president, why did this operation carry over? Why did the CIA use deception to get the operation approved? You get on these positions and twist your logic to the point that you end up saying things like southern slave holders deserve the most credit for ending slavery.
I never said that the southern slaveowners ended slavery. You are lying about that.
Of course the CIA planned the operation. They didn't give the approval which was always my point. They didn't give the OK to overthrow Castro. That is the main point and for some odd reason you keep missing it. They don't set foreign policy. The President does.
You keep making the equally foolish assertion that Kennedy's arm had to be twisted in order to carry out the Bay of Pigs invasion. It didn't. Kennedy was on board from the beginning. That is what you keep missing. He wanted Castro deposed but he didn't want it to appear that the U.S. was complicit in the overthrow. That is why he didn't want to provide air cover. They thought Exiles and Refugees would be enough. They also believed that the locals would rise up once it appeared that Castro was going down.
Kennedy had no reason to doubt them since they'd overseen the overthrow of two leaders during the previous decade.
The CIA's miscalculation is the reason that Kennedy fired the director. It had nothing to do with being tricked into into since he was in favor of it from the beginning. You are making false claims and the article I cited clearly debunks what you are saying.
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The Hawk wrote:
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