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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:31 pm 
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Institutions of higher education, be they public or "private", adjudicating claims of sexual assault makes them state actors, and at that point, due process kicks in and needs to be preserved.

This is something that I never understand/understood and why I stay away from 'student affairs' side of academia as they are the ones who are usually behind investigating/adjudicating these issues.

While professors/academic affairs are the ones who get accused of brainwashing students and being the masterminds behind any social justice causes, I don't see it as much. In reality, I think it is the student affairs people (they are where housing & clubs/organizations belong) who do much of the agenda pushing. I only remotely associate b/c I'm the advisor to a psychology club on campus. What is crazy (especially to us on the academia side) is that they think they are equally as important as academic affairs.


I don't think the ideological stuff is as prevalent in the science departments. I don't envision pittmike pushing a "social justice" agenda. :lol:


In nearly 12 years here in the medical school I have never had a social justice discussion with anyone. It may have to do with we deal with grad students and post docs rather than the undergrads. Or it may just be the subject matter doesn't really lend itself to that.

To be honest, social justice on campuses is almost always born out of the liberal arts schools. The students and faculty in other fields simply have more important things to be concerned with.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Psycory wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Institutions of higher education, be they public or "private", adjudicating claims of sexual assault makes them state actors, and at that point, due process kicks in and needs to be preserved.

This is something that I never understand/understood and why I stay away from 'student affairs' side of academia as they are the ones who are usually behind investigating/adjudicating these issues.

While professors/academic affairs are the ones who get accused of brainwashing students and being the masterminds behind any social justice causes, I don't see it as much. In reality, I think it is the student affairs people (they are where housing & clubs/organizations belong) who do much of the agenda pushing. I only remotely associate b/c I'm the advisor to a psychology club on campus. What is crazy (especially to us on the academia side) is that they think they are equally as important as academic affairs.


I don't think the ideological stuff is as prevalent in the science departments. I don't envision pittmike pushing a "social justice" agenda. :lol:


In nearly 12 years here in the medical school I have never had a social justice discussion with anyone. It may have to do with we deal with grad students and post docs rather than the undergrads. Or it may just be the subject matter doesn't really lend itself to that.

To be honest, social justice on campuses is almost always born out of the liberal arts schools. The students and faculty in other fields simply have more important things to be concerned with.


Along with critical thinking and logic we shold also get rid of the Soros-funded "science" schools and all the bullshit they push. Why is sking a sport if climate change is real? Fucking faucets.

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i had a girl try to take my pants off while i was driving. i had to stop it. too dangerous to orgasm and drive at the same time. she was fucking pissed though, and pretty much was the beginning of the end right there. its like she was entitled to sex at that moment, even though i actually did have a valid reason not to. she was such a pig.

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Colleges investigating rape cases certainly seems like something that they are ill-equipped to do. In these drunken hook-up stories the testimony is usually really unreliable on both sides for a variety of reasons. Need other evidence to be certain.

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i had a girl try to take my pants off while i was driving. i had to stop it. too dangerous to orgasm and drive at the same time. she was fucking pissed though, and pretty much was the beginning of the end right there. its like she was entitled to sex at that moment, even though i actually did have a valid reason not to. she was such a pig.



You got her number? HOO-AH!

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Colleges investigating rape cases certainly seems like something that they are ill-equipped to do. In these drunken hook-up stories the testimony is usually really unreliable on both sides for a variety of reasons. Need other evidence to be certain.

The only role a college should have is to call the proper authorities who can investigate

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Colleges investigating rape cases certainly seems like something that they are ill-equipped to do. In these drunken hook-up stories the testimony is usually really unreliable on both sides for a variety of reasons. Need other evidence to be certain.

The only role a college should have is to call the proper authorities who can investigate


That is the way I look at it. That said, many large campuses operate their own full police force. These are not just mall cops at doors. Regardless, some board of a variety of campus folks should not really be doing an investigation similar. They should make judgement after something is settled. I assume there is some problem with that but how else can it be done right?

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pittmike wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Colleges investigating rape cases certainly seems like something that they are ill-equipped to do. In these drunken hook-up stories the testimony is usually really unreliable on both sides for a variety of reasons. Need other evidence to be certain.

The only role a college should have is to call the proper authorities who can investigate


That is the way I look at it. That said, many large campuses operate their own full police force. These are not just mall cops at doors. Regardless, some board of a variety of campus folks should not really be doing an investigation similar. They should make judgement after something is settled. I assume there is some problem with that but how else can it be done right?

My school had a full fledged police force, but the problem we are seeing is that even they aren't called when these cases happen. Instead, it's handled entirely by the administrative side without any real investigation or due process.

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