She was supposed to buy your shorty Tyco with your money
She went to the doctor, got lipo with your money
She walking around looking like Michael with your money
Should've got that insured, Geico for your money

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Of course not. That's why hot chicks line up to fuck athletes.

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If are overly concerned about what your one night stand is spending child support money on you can (1) not raw dog your one night stand (2) spend a lot of time with your fucking kid.

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Spiral Stairs laying truth down. But racist!

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And the ex will make sure the kids stay enrolled in school until they are 24 or so. If they are in college the support keeps on coming out. My ex who has been going to school for most of this earths rotation will not mix in a graduation and instructs my kids from my first marriage to do the same. My daughter Hollie who is ill with cancer is my stepdaughter from my marriage of 15 years before anyone wants to try to be a smartass.

Wrong! You can be required to contribute to the kid's college expenses after they turn 18 or graduate high school. When that happens it's not based on a percentage of your net income like normal child support.

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513 is a strange statute. If you stay married you can tell your kids to fuck off and pay for their own college, but if you get divorced you might be forced to pay the college expenses. It's weird.

Also, I have yet to meet a guy who didn't think he had some right to tell his ex how the child support should be spent. It doesn't work that way. She can spend that money to take her new boyfriend on a cruise. Maybe you want to petition the Court for residential custody.

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You can possibly sneak out the back door and avoid 513 if you reserve the issue of college expenses. 513 essentially says you each agree to contribute to college once the kid is old enough. If you reserve the issue of college you haven't agreed to contribute anything until you are brought back to court on that issue.

If your kid is halfway through college and you've reserved the issue of contribution your ex can't get you to pay for expenses that have already been incurred. Under 513 you can be required to do so.

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I don't think the guy has the right to tell her how to spend it. But there should be some way of making sure it is spent on the actual child and their expenses.

So at what age are you free from child support? After college?

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A bunch of guys I know who gave their early life to the street won't work because of child support. Had a bunch of kids along the way and going legit would require a check on their income.

Having a lot of kids compounded the problem and basically ensured that their lives would be based on some form of hustle.

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What in your mind is a child related expense?

Does cable tv count? What about a cell phone? Food that both the kid and the other parent eat? Are potato chips ok to buy for the kid? Kid's don't need potato chips to live so why should that count as a child related expense?

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I get it is way easier said than done.

But taking a boyfriend on a cruise and buying food and paying for a cell phone are far from the same thing. I just think there should be some basic guidelines

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

It's never going to happen because correcting the "problem" would take up an insane amount of judicial resources that are better spent elsewhere.

If there was a way to enforce the "proper" spending of child support every single disgruntled obligor would bring their ex into court each month to make sure the support was being spent "the right way".

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Or just to be dick and make the ex spend money on a lawyer.

Tax Time question for those in the know...Dead beat didn't pay support for a long time. State finally caught up to him. Took several years to pay down balance, and then the interest payments kicked in as the total amount owed was coming to an end. The state issues a 1099-INT at end of year treating the income as interest income. Is the recipient of C.S. required to pay tax on the interest dead beat owed?

Thank you guys. Love your 'suit'. I'll hang up and listen for my answer.

That's strange. If its child support only it shouldn't be taxable.

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Dude was a total deadbeat. After 10 years they found him. This was straight child support. He had to pay principle plus interest (it's steep fellers. Pay in a timely manner). The interest kicked in recently, and the state is issuing the 1099-INT. The family does not believe that was the case prior to now, but who knows. Feds came after her for tax on the child support for 2015. I believe she must pay tax on the interest even though it is because the deadbeat did not pay in a timely manner.

I'm pretty sure the interest is taxable, but if it's child support, even paid in a lump, the past due amounts shouldn't be taxable.

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I can understand why the interest might be taxable because it's a surplus. Except that suplus only accrued because of non-taxable support that should have been paid on time but wasnt.

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Lots of good info here...the Marital Settlement Agreement (MSA) is a negotiated document....even with the statute on percentages. How and when child support ends is open and very important.

I have 2 kids. I pay 28% child support even though I have joint custody. Because I was in idiot....1) I married her 2) I had kids with her 3) I allowed her to be a "stay-at-home Mom". Because of #3, i also got stuck paying "Maintenance" (formerly known as "alimony") on top of the child support. This resulted in her getting 46% of my net income. It's not right, but I also know there's no shortage of deadbeats that caused this to be the law.

First thing I did after the divorce was final was leave my job of 13 years where I made decent money and find one that paid more. Did not change the amount she received, as long as I was paying her a minimum of 28% of my net income. She now is at about 33% of my net.

I have zero say in how she spends this money....and this is unfortunate, but as Spiral mentioned...no way to enforce and would be a waste of the court's time. I look at is a sunk cost and try not to think about it and just take care of my kids. All extra-curriculars are supposed to be split 50/50. The amount is supposed to cover clothes and stuff they need. Reality is, I pay for 100% of extra-curriculars (including $5K a year on hockey) and arguably buy more than half of their clothing. I could make a stink about it but it's more important for me to take care of my kids and since I have boys, I want them to see the example of a Father being the active provider. My oldest is now 16 and looking at colleges. That will also be likely 100% my problem. The good side is he's now old enough and aware enough to see how lazy and complacent his mother is.

My MSA is hard on me up front, but I win in the end. I have a firm end of child support specified by date on their 18th birthdays and a firm end of Maintenance. If she wanted more money, she'd have to retain and pay an attorney to and likely get nothing. She had her 5 years to find a way to raise her earning potential.

Divorce / Child support sucks...that's just the way it is. Regarding the initial question..one kid is 20% and regardless of how much money you make or how much the kid "needs"...that's what the mother gets.

So yes, GD.....I know all of this all too well!

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A coworker of mine got divorced last year whom had a wife that refused to work. She had a college degree and he wanted her to have a job but she refused and just didn't do anything. 25 years later they have no kids and he gets to continue to support her as her job was homemaker.

yep....be careful who you marry.
There's no statute on Maintenance but the general rule of thumb in Illinois is 1/3 of years of marriage. The more years of marriage, the harder it is to get the end date.

I wish I had gotten out sooner, but in some ways consider myself lucky for getting out when I did.

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I think I mentioned this here before but, in a good dozen or so years I was in and out of that unfortunate court, the most bizarre thing I saw was the giant Alonzo Spellman getting very small and looking very afraid of the mother of his child. The woman was a stunningly hot Asian woman who came to court in all black (leather?) in 4 inch heels that had her standing all of about 5'4".

Two weeks later he was walking away from Halas Hall having a breakdown.

Thankfully she didn't bring her child to court as so many of the sad people did(do?) out of spite.

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There IS a statue on maintenance in Illinois. In fact it recently underwent a huge overhaul a few years ago. At the end of the day thought, at least when you're talking about maintenance, whether or not you're going to be required to pay it depends largely upon what judge has your case. Unless of course youve been married for twenty years and your wife never worked. In that case you're fucked.

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