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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:59 pm 
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Will the Republican-led Congress do anything other than send sternly worded letters?

I think there's a fair chance they actually will do something to curb, if not outright eliminate, this stupidity.


They'll need democratic help. That's probably not going to happen.

What? Why not?


Because they need 2/3 of Congress to override the president on this. That's what I believe I read.


If Democrats won't join Republicans when the opportunity to stick it to Trump presents itself, they deserve to be where they are, power wise.


How would they stick it to him?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:05 am 
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Oh the Germans don't like it when a country with a larger economy bullies others? That's pretty rich. I'm sure they dont feel the same way about when they unilaterally decided the steel industry in their empir--economic union should all be concentrated in Deutschland.


The Germans are pretty good at being the economic bully.

Nobody is better. Why do you think 4 of the 9 (counting Luxembourg) countries they border wont adopt their new Detuschmark? The Poles and Czech's are wise to this shit and Denmark has seen enough to know what it looks to be on the menu.

It doesn't even bother me except for the obvious duplicity. Life under German rule is vastly superior to living under the American nightmare with pozzed liberals literally crying over a tweet while a racial hate group carries out repeated terror attacks against police to raucous applause. Like every other civilized country in the world except maybe the Canadians and spineless UK, the German leaders admire the job Trump is doing 1000 times more than his predecessor but admitting that is political suicide.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:40 am 
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We have no leverage. While globalization means that a country like Russia going full retard means they destroy their own economy in the process when the rest of the world responds (Crimea and Ukraine was not full retard), it also means that a country like the US, that routinely runs significant deficits, has no real leverage to negotiate them away without tariffs.

China is getting away with economic murder. Actually, at this point it is economic mass murder. They can because the majority of the old industrialized nations are terrified of not being able to have economic growth to pay for their own welfare states and the only way going forward for them is to court investment of the kind China offers. Very little strings attached. So they cannot line up with the US and hold China accountable for currency manipulation, or their building of islands in the middle of the sea to try and control the most valuable shipping lanes in the world. The US is once again left to do that ourselves. This is World Police kind of shit that has existed since WW2 and let everyone who fell in line to get very rich off the US expending a lot of treasure to maintain it. But those days are coming to an end. And we have to be able to create leverage. Europe won't join us the majority of the time even if they could so they will often find themselves in the crosshairs as well.

Don't get me wrong. I think Trump, and most any US administration will fuck it up in the long run but I dont know what else to do aside from simply bending over to the Chinese and giving up. They might only account for 2% of steel imports but it's the building blocks of leverage on trade. He couldn't simply slap tariffs only on China. You have to do this stupid dance.

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