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I would fire her. She knew it was a mistake and wasn't honest about it. Your company sounds like a peach


She didn't know. She only found out when they brought it to her attention two years later.


she knew. how could she not? she knew that 1/5 of her income would be GONE and it wasn't.


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I would fire her for wanting fridays off to do church stuff. How about you work on a workday?

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i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


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i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.



How do you fuck up a state job a 3rd time? Your spider sense has to go off, by the 2nd time you do it.


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he was consistently frustrated. he said people there had no idea how great they had it (if you are the type of person who has no ambition) he worked there for 3 years before quitting and starting his own private auditing firm.

after a year, he was given a "meets expectations" review. this was because he made the entire department (Sales and Use) look bad by finishing twice as many audits as the next person. As such it was assumed that his work was shoddy. effectively the discussion with his boss was, slow down, you are working too hard. so he did. which meant that he had usually half his day completely free. but the internet was locked down to the hilt. So he started writing. until finally one of the CPS's he'd worked with on a few audits wanted to invest in him starting his own business.


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hnd wrote:
i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


Not the same thing, but what is your guys' ruling on this? My buddy's father was an elevator inspector for the City of Evanston. He was very connected politically. His best friend was the city manager. Evanston is a small town. Everyone knows everyone (and we all find Northwestern a pain in the ass). When his friend retired as city manager after a heart attack, he wanted to set it up so my friend's dad got the job. My friend's dad turned it down. He said it was a giant headache and he wasn't looking to have a heart attack himself.

Anyway, each week he would get a list of elevators to be inspected during that week. It was ostensibly a week's worth of work. Well, he would schedule all the week's inspections for Monday and Tuesday and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday he would sit around Russ's gas station playing cards, telling lies, and drinking coffee. The new village manager who got the job he turned down was intimidated by this guy. So he had a cop follow him around and called him in for playing cards on city time. He offered to let him keep his pension if he resigned. He did. And then he took a job as an engineer at Northwestern.

So what say you? Did he get a raw deal or what was coming to him?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
hnd wrote:
i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


Not the same thing, but what is your guys' ruling on this? My buddy's father was an elevator inspector for the City of Evanston. He was very connected politically. His best friend was the city manager. Evanston is a small town. Everyone knows everyone (and we all find Northwestern a pain in the ass). When his friend retired as city manager after a heart attack, he wanted to set it up so my friend's dad got the job. My friend's dad turned it down. He said it was a giant headache and he wasn't looking to have a heart attack himself.

Anyway, each week he would get a list of elevators to be inspected during that week. It was ostensibly a week's worth of work. Well, he would schedule all the week's inspections for Monday and Tuesday and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday he would sit around Russ's gas station playing cards, telling lies, and drinking coffee. The new village manager who got the job he turned down was intimidated by this guy. So he had a cop follow him around and called him in for playing cards on city time. He offered to let him keep his pension if he resigned. He did. And then he took a job as an engineer at Northwestern.

So what say you? Did he get a raw deal or what was coming to him?


Its an interesting thought. Its a matter of am i paid to do x job, or is it i'm paid to be here x hours. as a manager myself, i've always been a person whose focus is on the former. this is your job. i put what appears to be around 40 hours of work on your plate. if you finish it well in 30, congratulations, if you finish it in 50, thems the bricks. if you are the type of person with the ambition to move up, you'll spend those other 10 hours doing something else. if not, there you'll stay...

I'm assuming he was a salaried employee?


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No decisions with out pics. Tubby gtfo. Hot work something out.

Agreed 100%.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
hnd wrote:
i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


Not the same thing, but what is your guys' ruling on this? My buddy's father was an elevator inspector for the City of Evanston. He was very connected politically. His best friend was the city manager. Evanston is a small town. Everyone knows everyone (and we all find Northwestern a pain in the ass). When his friend retired as city manager after a heart attack, he wanted to set it up so my friend's dad got the job. My friend's dad turned it down. He said it was a giant headache and he wasn't looking to have a heart attack himself.

Anyway, each week he would get a list of elevators to be inspected during that week. It was ostensibly a week's worth of work. Well, he would schedule all the week's inspections for Monday and Tuesday and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday he would sit around Russ's gas station playing cards, telling lies, and drinking coffee. The new village manager who got the job he turned down was intimidated by this guy. So he had a cop follow him around and called him in for playing cards on city time. He offered to let him keep his pension if he resigned. He did. And then he took a job as an engineer at Northwestern.

So what say you? Did he get a raw deal or what was coming to him?


im having trouble getting how the guy could go from elevator inspector to city manager.... that doesnt seem reasonable


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billypootons wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
hnd wrote:
i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


Not the same thing, but what is your guys' ruling on this? My buddy's father was an elevator inspector for the City of Evanston. He was very connected politically. His best friend was the city manager. Evanston is a small town. Everyone knows everyone (and we all find Northwestern a pain in the ass). When his friend retired as city manager after a heart attack, he wanted to set it up so my friend's dad got the job. My friend's dad turned it down. He said it was a giant headache and he wasn't looking to have a heart attack himself.

Anyway, each week he would get a list of elevators to be inspected during that week. It was ostensibly a week's worth of work. Well, he would schedule all the week's inspections for Monday and Tuesday and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday he would sit around Russ's gas station playing cards, telling lies, and drinking coffee. The new village manager who got the job he turned down was intimidated by this guy. So he had a cop follow him around and called him in for playing cards on city time. He offered to let him keep his pension if he resigned. He did. And then he took a job as an engineer at Northwestern.

So what say you? Did he get a raw deal or what was coming to him?


im having trouble getting how the guy could go from elevator inspector to city manager.... that doesnt seem reasonable


Like I said, he was a political guy. The manager is appointed by the city council. I think they knew they could line up the votes.

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billypootons wrote:
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hnd wrote:
i don't know if this fits, but maybe.

My best friend worked for the iowa dept of revenue. He was an auditor. Sometimes they would have to go onsite for a few weeks to do audits at places of business. He started and within a few months noticed a cubicle that looked occupied but he'd never seen the person. So he asked and someone told him it was a lady who did a lot of audits on larger firms that took a long time. he said after 3 months of never seeing this person, she was in the office one day. he introduced herself and she was not pleasant.

well come to find out, she basically had a 3 mo vacation and just had all the paperwork filled out like all was good. The office needed her to fill out some paperwork for insurance or something and called the business she was supposed to be at and they said, they'd gotten letters and talked to her a few times over the phone but she said she had all she needed and had only visited the office once 3 months ago.

the kicker. this was the 2nd time she has done this. the next kicker, they still couldn't fire her. it took her doing it a 3rd time before they could file the paperwork to have her fired. she got sent home but was still paid for like 6 mo before the paperwork went through.


Not the same thing, but what is your guys' ruling on this? My buddy's father was an elevator inspector for the City of Evanston. He was very connected politically. His best friend was the city manager. Evanston is a small town. Everyone knows everyone (and we all find Northwestern a pain in the ass). When his friend retired as city manager after a heart attack, he wanted to set it up so my friend's dad got the job. My friend's dad turned it down. He said it was a giant headache and he wasn't looking to have a heart attack himself.

Anyway, each week he would get a list of elevators to be inspected during that week. It was ostensibly a week's worth of work. Well, he would schedule all the week's inspections for Monday and Tuesday and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday he would sit around Russ's gas station playing cards, telling lies, and drinking coffee. The new village manager who got the job he turned down was intimidated by this guy. So he had a cop follow him around and called him in for playing cards on city time. He offered to let him keep his pension if he resigned. He did. And then he took a job as an engineer at Northwestern.

So what say you? Did he get a raw deal or what was coming to him?


im having trouble getting how the guy could go from elevator inspector to city manager.... that doesnt seem reasonable


My cousin was married to a famous congressman's daughter.

He was a city foreman in the sewer department for many years. Started out as a bricklayer and worked his way up.

After he married the congressman's daughter, they went on a two week honeymoon arriving back in Chicago on a Sunday morning. Dinner at the congressman's home that awaited him. After some chit chat and cocktails they sat down for dinner.

Said congressman casually tells my cousin, Bob, that "There will be a car picking you up for work tomorrow morning!"

Bob replies, " No need I've been driving myself to job sites for years and will continue to do so if you don't mind."

Congressman replies, " I know, but starting tomorrow you are the deputy director of the city water department, and the job comes with a driver. He will be at your house at 7:00AM!!"

Bob replies"OH". :lol:

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They can and will get there money back. Its a clerical error. She should lose the money and her job, for the way she is acting

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