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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:32 pm 
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Just smoke the green stuff.

It's still lit afire and your lungs don't want it. Your lungs GET USED TO the abuse.

"Marijuana smoking is associated with large airway inflammation, increased airway resistance, and lung hyperinflation, and those who smoke marijuana regularly report more symptoms of chronic bronchitis than those who do not smoke.68,69 One study found that people who frequently smoke marijuana had more outpatient medical visits for respiratory problems than those who do not smoke.70 Some case studies have suggested that, because of THC’s immune-suppressing effects, smoking marijuana might increase susceptibility to lung infections, such as pneumonia, in people with immune deficiencies"


I bet you’re really fun at parties.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:20 pm 
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https://www.lung.org/about-us/media/pre ... ettes.html

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"E-cigarettes are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease. No one should use e-cigarettes or any other tobacco product. This message is even more urgent today following the increasing reports of vaping-related illnesses and deaths nationwide.

"E-cigarettes contain chemicals harmful to lung health such as heavy metals, carcinogens, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. The developing lungs of youth may be more at risk, making what the Surgeon General refers to as a youth e-cigarette epidemic even more alarming.


Seems pretty cut and dried. The American Lung Association says it's bad. I'll take their word for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:34 pm 
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Curious Hair wrote:
https://www.lung.org/about-us/media/press-releases/do-not-use-eigarettes.html

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"E-cigarettes are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease. No one should use e-cigarettes or any other tobacco product. This message is even more urgent today following the increasing reports of vaping-related illnesses and deaths nationwide.

"E-cigarettes contain chemicals harmful to lung health such as heavy metals, carcinogens, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. The developing lungs of youth may be more at risk, making what the Surgeon General refers to as a youth e-cigarette epidemic even more alarming.


Seems pretty cut and dried. The American Lung Association says it's bad. I'll take their word for it.

I bet you're really fun at parties.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:27 am 
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Curious Hair wrote:
https://www.lung.org/about-us/media/press-releases/do-not-use-eigarettes.html

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"E-cigarettes are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease. No one should use e-cigarettes or any other tobacco product. This message is even more urgent today following the increasing reports of vaping-related illnesses and deaths nationwide.

"E-cigarettes contain chemicals harmful to lung health such as heavy metals, carcinogens, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. The developing lungs of youth may be more at risk, making what the Surgeon General refers to as a youth e-cigarette epidemic even more alarming.


Seems pretty cut and dried. The American Lung Association says it's bad. I'll take their word for it.

It's just water vapor!

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:29 am 
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Say what you want about tobacco cigarettes but at least they had the decency to slowly kill people after decades of being a valued customer.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:43 am 
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Say what you want about tobacco cigarettes but at least they had the decency to slowly kill people after decades of being a valued customer.


I'll put you down for yes on torture and increased medical expenses.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:07 am 
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Curious Hair wrote:
https://www.lung.org/about-us/media/press-releases/do-not-use-eigarettes.html

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"E-cigarettes are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease. No one should use e-cigarettes or any other tobacco product. This message is even more urgent today following the increasing reports of vaping-related illnesses and deaths nationwide.

"E-cigarettes contain chemicals harmful to lung health such as heavy metals, carcinogens, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. The developing lungs of youth may be more at risk, making what the Surgeon General refers to as a youth e-cigarette epidemic even more alarming.


Seems pretty cut and dried. The American Lung Association says it's bad. I'll take their word for it.

Well, duh! American Lung Association are the Vegans of air passages.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:53 am 
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Curious Hair wrote:
https://www.lung.org/about-us/media/press-releases/do-not-use-eigarettes.html

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"E-cigarettes are not safe and can cause irreversible lung damage and lung disease. No one should use e-cigarettes or any other tobacco product. This message is even more urgent today following the increasing reports of vaping-related illnesses and deaths nationwide.

"E-cigarettes contain chemicals harmful to lung health such as heavy metals, carcinogens, vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. The developing lungs of youth may be more at risk, making what the Surgeon General refers to as a youth e-cigarette epidemic even more alarming.


Seems pretty cut and dried. The American Lung Association says it's bad. I'll take their word for it.

I bet you're really fun at parties.
Clearly you have never played Sir Bingo at a party.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:08 pm 
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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Say what you want about tobacco cigarettes but at least they had the decency to slowly kill people after decades of being a valued customer.


I'll put you down for yes on torture and increased medical expenses.


those last 6 months of slowly asphyxiating to death as your lungs and bank account give out give every smoker something to look forward to in their golden years.


Where's the Weird Al vaping parody set to a Lady Gaga/Madonna song. We need Weird Al to hold up a mirror to folks and show them how idiotic they looking sucking on a smoldering ballpoint cut in half.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... ssion=true

It's Obama's fault.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-01/vaping-flavors-obama-white-house-fda?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

It's Obama's fault.


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Some teenagers who tried these playful vaping flavors thought they were just inhaling water vapor — not also nicotine, a chemical considered as addictive as heroin and cocaine.

Not sure I buy that.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:17 pm 
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Darkside wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-01/vaping-flavors-obama-white-house-fda?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

It's Obama's fault.


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Some teenagers who tried these playful vaping flavors thought they were just inhaling water vapor — not also nicotine, a chemical considered as addictive as heroin and cocaine.

Not sure I buy that.

It definitely sounds like bullshit but teenagers are pretty fucking stupid, so who knows

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:23 pm 
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When its all said and done vaping will probably lead to more deaths and burden on the US healthcare system in one month than all rifles and shotguns will in the next decade. Tobacco kills 500,000 people every year and this shit is clearly not much better for you. If its even 1% as lethal as chewing tobacco thats a staggering number of deaths and need for prolonged, intensive care.

If you're the kind of person who think this is just something people should endure and accept as the cost of liberties I'm alright with that, but you cant turn around and act flabbergasted when the same isn't applied to "assault weapons" which have a tiny fraction of the destructive capacity as vaping.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:17 pm 
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FavreFan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-01/vaping-flavors-obama-white-house-fda?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

It's Obama's fault.


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Some teenagers who tried these playful vaping flavors thought they were just inhaling water vapor — not also nicotine, a chemical considered as addictive as heroin and cocaine.

Not sure I buy that.

It definitely sounds like bullshit but teenagers are pretty fucking stupid, so who knows


I went to the source, my nearly 20 y/o son. He says the recency of this is pretty specific to the Juul or that type of device. That craze plus the fact you can refill those pods they use. Apparently, the kids are refilling them with everything from THC oil to all super strengths of nicotine because they can do that cheaper and get their hands on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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Heard some stats the other day about how for the first time in forever use of nicotine products among high school and younger folks has ticked up. It wasn't a doubling or too dramatic of an increase: from 22% of high school seniors up to 28% say they regularly use some sort of nicotine product. but it's a change in the direction of the trend. And if they crack-down on vaping all these newly minted nicotine-fiends will end up resorting to regular cigarettes to get their fix.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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Heard some stats the other day about how for the first time in forever use of nicotine products among high school and younger folks has ticked up. It wasn't a doubling or too dramatic of an increase: from 22% of high school seniors up to 28% say they regularly use some sort of nicotine product. but it's a change in the direction of the trend. And if they crack-down on vaping all these newly minted nicotine-fiends will end up resorting to regular cigarettes to get their fix.


Fucking Juul is a shell company operated by Phillip Morris I bet.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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Hussra wrote:
Heard some stats the other day about how for the first time in forever use of nicotine products among high school and younger folks has ticked up. It wasn't a doubling or too dramatic of an increase: from 22% of high school seniors up to 28% say they regularly use some sort of nicotine product. but it's a change in the direction of the trend. And if they crack-down on vaping all these newly minted nicotine-fiends will end up resorting to regular cigarettes to get their fix.


Fucking Juul is a shell company operated by Phillip Morris I bet.


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/12/10/Terpenes-in-marijuana-vaping-products-may-produce-toxic-chemicals/6861575932260/

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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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Here is a subject I am not quite understanding.

I am aware of vaping and I and some other guys used the method to quit or reduce smokes and nicotine.


WTF in the last week because like 5 kids died vaping out of 340 million people this week and they had THC in them.

Why does the whole nation freak for less that a hundred people?

Why does the POTUS even take that question?


You're right. They should be treated like shooting deaths. Thoughts and prayers to all those dead vapers.


It’s less than people hanging themselves while jacking off like Rogers Park Bryan did!

Not entirely accurate


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 Post subject: Re: Vaping
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rogers park bryan wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
Here is a subject I am not quite understanding.

I am aware of vaping and I and some other guys used the method to quit or reduce smokes and nicotine.


WTF in the last week because like 5 kids died vaping out of 340 million people this week and they had THC in them.

Why does the whole nation freak for less that a hundred people?

Why does the POTUS even take that question?


You're right. They should be treated like shooting deaths. Thoughts and prayers to all those dead vapers.


It’s less than people hanging themselves while jacking off like Rogers Park Bryan did!

Not entirely accurate


:lol: I wonder why I wrote that.

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I guess that lends itself to my theory that it was somewhat new. It is the pot oil vaping more than the long time general vaping.

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