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It is a given they did. I mean the Democrats worked against them in the last couple elections in Russia. It is our dirty laundry coming home to roost. Is it a good thing, hell no no foreign power should mess in another countries elections/destiny but we have been doing it for a long enough time to the Russians and other countries,ie "nation building". That is was at some point going to come back and bight us in the ass.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

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Nas wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

Thanks.

The opposite of what media says could maybe possibly just this once be true.
Could be that Obama's team of curiosities made it so easy for Putin to do all he wanted to do that he actually feared Trump being elected.

Who you wanna game against? Ben Rhodes and Hillary and Cheryl Mills and Huma (Muslim Brotherhood) and those two clowns at CIA/DNI . Or Mad Dog and Mike Pompeo and Mike Flynn and Mike Pence.
C'mon man!


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Just in!
Intel agency interfering in USA elections:
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/12 ... t-russian/

Whoa, guy seems to know how to play the great game.

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Podesta only got hacked because his password was "password." The Russians ain't what they used to be, that's for sure.

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SomeGuy wrote:
Nas wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

Thanks.


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Podesta only got hacked because his password was "password." The Russians ain't what they used to be, that's for sure.



I remember when a "re-set" with Russia was considered a good thing. :lol:

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Nas wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Nas wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

Thanks.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preparing-wh ... itics.html


Another narrative shaping article. Good to see you'll take the bait without even a second thought.


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Podesta only got hacked because his password was "password." The Russians ain't what they used to be, that's for sure.



I remember when a "re-set" with Russia was considered a good thing. :lol:


Funny isn't it?

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Nas wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Nas wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

Thanks.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preparing-wh ... itics.html


Another narrative shaping article. Good to see you'll take the bait without even a second thought.



I hate it when Someguy is right.

Either it took the CIA a month to the figure this out, and then that is NOT good.

Or, it's more politicization of the cabinet positions by the current POTUS.

Bad no matter what. And how quickly we forget.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Podesta only got hacked because his password was "password." The Russians ain't what they used to be, that's for sure.



I remember when a "re-set" with Russia was considered a good thing. :lol:


I remember the good ole' days when an acting Secretary of State could actually conduct personal financial business transactions with the Russians and no one would bat an eye. In fact, MANY would come and defend it.

We are entering the second age of the Red Scare! Commies everywhere! Start the show trials! Deploy the Pershing's to Western Europe! How about some more proxy wars! Pass laws that allow the government to overtly filter news, information and shut down anyone and anything that doesn't "pass muster" with the censorship boards...haha that actually just happened. How about a no fly zone in Syria?

Scary stuff, folks.


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Some folks at church last night were all in an uproar about this. My response was:
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Nas wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Nas wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-orders-review-election-season-hacking-080011517.html


I've read the "article" (propaganda) and have yet to find any mention of a direct link to the Russian government or any actual facts or evidence that would prove and validate the assertion made by the intelligence community. Actually, the CIA has even admitted they have no actual evidence to back thei assertion up.

This charade is done for a few reasons:
1.) Obama and the Left are trying their hardest to invalidate the election.
2.) Start a conflict/distraction with the half dead Russian bear, this is the ultimate goal of a few hardliners.
3.) This also dove tails perfectly with the big "Fake News" propaganda push from the Left and their media distractors. Hillary shuffling her corpse out the other day and pimping this garbage prices that they are all moving in unison. "Fake News" and the Progressive Marxists "solution" to it is part of a longer game.

I'll wait for actual facts and evidence to draw a conclusion.

Thanks.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preparing-wh ... itics.html


Another narrative shaping article. Good to see you'll take the bait without even a second thought.



I hate it when Someguy is right.

Either it took the CIA a month to the figure this out, and then that is NOT good.

Or, it's more politicization of the cabinet positions by the current POTUS.

Bad no matter what. And how quickly we forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE


I love you too, man. Merry Christmas to you and you bring up good points.

The "Report" doesn't actually say anything, though. It's a leaked report from an anonymous source (oh the irony) and an "unnamed" official that allegedly sat in on one of the meetings. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the veracity of anything presented here. At the end of it all you have the report (not just the Yahoo article, but from other places retelling it) state that the "Intelligence Community" (at best) came to a "consensus" on the matter....which can be, essentially, meaningless. The CIA also admits that they have no proof, no facts and no evidence to prove the Russian government was behind all of this or directed any of it.

The lynch-pin of this seems to be that the Obama administration and the intel community (mostly CIA) seem to think that the RNC was hacked as well and the hackers/WikiLeaks didn't do anything with the info. The RNC denies it, says they provided proof that they were secure and the FBI (who seems to be the only organization that actually did a forensic investigation) reported that the RNC wasn't hacked but that individual R's (not in the campaign) were hacked, like Powell.

Now, those would be actual details and facts....these aren't being presented to the public at all. This is narrative shaping by a dying, corned beast desperately trying to live. This is one of their gambits....

Oh and there is this...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-02/house-quietly-passes-bill-targeting-russian-propaganda-websites

What great timing! Looks like Obama's push for a "Ministry of Truth" may very well be coming to fruition. But, whatever, Rex Tillerson did business with the Boris Yeltsin admin back in the 90's, the man is pretty much Joe Stalin. Ha, have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?


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trump severely pissing off the CIA now. this is great. we have nixon to the power of 10. complete fucking child.

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trump severely pissing off the CIA now. this is great. we have nixon to the power of 10. complete fucking child.


The children at play are the current President. His administration and the Left. Who is attacking and devaluing the election and undermining our democratic institutions? It ain't the Russian Bear...it's Harry Reid, President Obama, Hillary Clinton and much of the Left plus their media propaganda arms.

Putin didn't need to lift a finger he has real red blooded American politicians doing all the work for him. Maybe they should be the ones investigated, eh,comrade?


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The Trumpet Choir wants us to ignore commonsense and the intelligence community. It's a sad day in America. J Edgar Hoover is bending over in his grave.

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The Trumpet Choir wants us to ignore commonsense and the intelligence community. It's a sad day in America. J Edgar Hoover is bending over in his grave.


You're trolling, or at least I hope you are.

The intelligence community even admitted their isn', at this point, any evidence that the Russians were involved in any way. The FBI commented on evidence and facts that it has, the CIA/Intel Community is making assertions and conspiracy theories with, as they have admitted already, no evidence to prove them. In fact, I think it can by theorized that the CIA is now acting to discredit and devalue the 2016 election and, as such, is doing the work that they assert the Russians are doing. Kind of funny, Obama, Reid and the rest are the ones carrying Putin's water.

More interesting is that this "story"( :lol: ) is being deployed in unison by all of the key players, all at the same time, with the same narrative tropes and selective information peddling. They are, quite literally, reading off the same script. Same language, same implied understanding, same anonymous sources and the same non-truths.... Example: Andrea Mitchell ststing in an article that the CIA "confirmed" that the Russians are behind Trump being elected. None of that is true, nor does the leaked "story" prove Mitchell's assertion. But it's printed anyways.

Also, no one has even stated what they think the Russians actually did....just that they "influenced" the election in some way....I think, maybe. No one knows, but trust the CIA and current admin. Even though they already admitted they have zero evidence or proof or facts at this time and the whole "story" is a leak from an anonymous source. The Washington Post is already taking a step back as well, especially about the phony fake PropOrNot hoax.

Common sense and critical thinking is being used here, just not by Nas.


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I have one question. Why is the CIA doing domestic investigations?I thought their charter prohibited them from doing that sort of thing? Why isn't anyone in the media bringing this up?

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our new white house cheif of staff just went on tv and made himself a complete blubbering ass on meet the press. lions preevus is a fucking joke.

this is exactly what i was thinking. trump will NOT be hiring anyone smarter or better than him. He will only pick idiots that dont challenge him. this is going to be a fun dumpster fire to watch.

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Podesta only got hacked because his password was "password." The Russians ain't what they used to be, that's for sure.


Very important here, CH, Podesta wasn't hacked by a nefarious shadow group in an underground bunker with billions of dollars of computer equipment...they did it to themselves. Terrible IT security protocols and they got taken by a phishing scam on the level of the dreaded "Nigerian Prince!" Email scam that is now a joke.

Plus, let us not forget that the emails and information contained within is all legit.

Peace out, comrades!


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Oh, lest I forget...


The main narrative thread being pushed before the election was that the Russians simply wanted to discredit and devalue our democratic process, to sow seeds of doubt and such. That was the script. Interesting that the CIA/Intel Community and the Obama Administration are working overtime to accomplish these particular goals. Who is on America's side here?

Oh and that "deep dive" that is going to happen concerning Ivan and the Hacks (or whatever) may very well not have its findings released, officially at least, no doubt another unverified, unnamed and anonymous source will leak some stuff for us. :lol:

Ahahahahahahah, can't make this shit up.


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I have one question. Why is the CIA doing domestic investigations?I thought their charter prohibited them from doing that sort of thing? Why isn't anyone in the media bringing this up?


You may not have noticed this but Russia is a foreign country.

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The Trumpet Choir wants us to ignore commonsense and the intelligence community. It's a sad day in America. J Edgar Hoover is bending over in his grave.


You're trolling, or at least I hope you are.

The intelligence community even admitted their isn', at this point, any evidence that the Russians were involved in any way. The FBI commented on evidence and facts that it has, the CIA/Intel Community is making assertions and conspiracy theories with, as they have admitted already, no evidence to prove them. In fact, I think it can by theorized that the CIA is now acting to discredit and devalue the 2016 election and, as such, is doing the work that they assert the Russians are doing. Kind of funny, Obama, Reid and the rest are the ones carrying Putin's water.

More interesting is that this "story"( :lol: ) is being deployed in unison by all of the key players, all at the same time, with the same narrative tropes and selective information peddling. They are, quite literally, reading off the same script. Same language, same implied understanding, same anonymous sources and the same non-truths.... Example: Andrea Mitchell ststing in an article that the CIA "confirmed" that the Russians are behind Trump being elected. None of that is true, nor does the leaked "story" prove Mitchell's assertion. But it's printed anyways.

Also, no one has even stated what they think the Russians actually did....just that they "influenced" the election in some way....I think, maybe. No one knows, but trust the CIA and current admin. Even though they already admitted they have zero evidence or proof or facts at this time and the whole "story" is a leak from an anonymous source. The Washington Post is already taking a step back as well, especially about the phony fake PropOrNot hoax.

Common sense and critical thinking is being used here, just not by Nas.


Your post is totally false. Not providing the public with the intelligence they have isn't the same as not having any intelligence that links Russia. Every step of the way Trump has blown kisses at Putin and the Russians have hacked and leaked valid information that ONLY hurt Democrats and pushed fake news that ONLY hurt Hillary and Democrats. Trump is about to nominate a Russian approved Secretary of State after Putin publicly criticized his other options.

The CIA has concluded that Russia mounted a covert intelligence operation to influence the U.S. election in an effort to help Donald Trump win, a congressional official knowledgeable on the matter told NBC News.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper briefed senators on the latest intelligence in a closed-door meeting last week, and he described the latest findings on the intentions of the Russian government with regard to the hacks and other interference in the U.S. presidential election, according to the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the intelligence.


Separately, another source briefed in the intelligence told NBC News that the U.S. government has identified specific Russian actors it believes were involved in the hacks, based on intercepted communications, human source tips and computer forensics.

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