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If the belief is some guys with muskets could take on our military, I'm going to have to disagree strongly.


Yeah, except this wouldn't be foreign soil for our military.


Well, George Washington and some guys with holes in their boots didn't really beat England. It took France to do that. You just have to hold out until help is on the way. There are plenty of examples of that. It's usually the U.S. backing the rebels. I'm sure there are foreign powers that would love to turn the tables in the hypothetical revolution we're talking about.

This isn't exactly selling things well when it turns out the guns of our citizens to fight the government are needed to let a foreign power take over instead. That foreign power is China.



The French were shocked by the actions of their erstwhile ally during the Quasi-War!

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Nas wrote:
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If the belief is some guys with muskets could take on our military, I'm going to have to disagree strongly.


Yeah, except this wouldn't be foreign soil for our military.


Well, George Washington and some guys with holes in their boots didn't really beat England. It took France to do that. You just have to hold out until help is on the way. There are plenty of examples of that. It's usually the U.S. backing the rebels. I'm sure there are foreign powers that would love to turn the tables in the hypothetical revolution we're talking about.


Hypothetically, we would have to be in some depression that the world has never seen for our lazy citizens to fight our government. I can't imagine a China or Russia would be stable enough to give aid to our rebels.

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There what is? The government is holding people charged with misdemanors or not charged at all indefinitely.

You saying it, or reading it on twitter, doesn't make it so.



It's a fact though. Because you don't know what you're talking about doesn't change that.

This sentiment could be repeated in almost every thread that fucking moron posts in .

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The military wipes out people today using machines you can't see, let alone shoot to disarm out of self defense. How is any private citizen/militia going to top that?


IF a significant number of soldiers ignore orders and join the men with rifles, the rebels still wouldn't have a chance. The technology our military has is far superior to the weapons MANY collect solely for hobby.


The soldiers joining them would aim their sophisticated weapons 180 degrees back at the government they hold corrupt.

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There what is? The government is holding people charged with misdemanors or not charged at all indefinitely.

You saying it, or reading it on twitter, doesn't make it so.
It's a fact though. Because you don't know what you're talking about doesn't change that.
Who has been held indefinitely without being charged over January 6th? Name names.

Maybe rogue can put down his coloring book and help you out.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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There what is? The government is holding people charged with misdemanors or not charged at all indefinitely.

You saying it, or reading it on twitter, doesn't make it so.
It's a fact though. Because you don't know what you're talking about doesn't change that.
Who has been held indefinitely without being charged over January 6th? Name names.

Maybe rogue can put down his coloring book and help you out.


My God. You still believe an officer was killed with a fire extinguisher, don't you? DRUMPF!

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You didn't answer the question.

Perhaps you missed it, so here it is again. Who has been held indefinitely without being charged over January 6th? You said this was a fact, I'm just asking you for proof.
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You didn't answer the question.

Perhaps you missed it, so here it is again. Who has been held indefinitely without being charged over January 6th? You said this was a fact, I'm just asking you for proof.
Thanks.


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:lol: :lol: Please. What a garbage reply.

I'll take your lack of response to my question to mean that you cannot back up what you claimed to be factual.

The ball is in your court. Either you can back up your claims, or be known as a liar.

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I remember a think tank played out a scenario of what would happen in a new civil war. It turned out not to good for most of the country. I am looking for it but can't seem to find it. This though is an interesting scenario:https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/second-civil-war/

If you think citizens armed with Ars do not scare the people in power then why are they so gun-ho to get rid of them? Plus, if you think organized hillbillys are not a threat then why does the Feds worry so much about them?Why do they all talk about that they are such a threat yet the inner city gang who are on a day to day more criminally active? Why are they really not concerned with the gangs from the south pouring over the border virtually unimpeded? The reason is those militias believe in what both the Deceleration of Independence and Constitution say about governments that are no longer working for the people. In reality if the truckers,who right now are a majority, conservative folk, just stop not a shot would be needed to be fired.

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If any militia is going to win the war it will be the ones funded by the mega corporations. You really think your backyard arsenal can stop the Pepsi-Walmart-Amazon alliance?

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OKC bombing carried out by a cadre of Fort Benning alums. Anti-government sentiment much higher & more extreme among enlisted ranks than in gen pop.


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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.

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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.


Didn't some guy use a bomb truck to interrupt phone service last year?

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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.



But then the the question is "who comprises this military?" Turns out it's made up of an aggregation of those one dudes who bombed a building in a city. The military enlisted ranks are fertile ground for Q-Anon tinfoil hattery. Military can't bomb shit if their enlisted ranks go over to the other side.


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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.


Didn't some guy use a bomb truck to interrupt phone service last year?


I think so, plus (tinfoil hat mode) al lot of the accidental opps we cut a internet trunk line in the middle of nowhere might not be so accidental.

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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.



But then the the question is "who comprises this military?" Turns out it's made up of an aggregation of those one dudes who bombed a building in a city. The military enlisted ranks are fertile ground for Q-Anon tinfoil hattery. Military can't bomb shit if their enlisted ranks go over to the other side.


All it requires is one boomer sub or silo crew to fuck the government up

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:lol: :lol: Please. What a garbage reply.

I'll take your lack of response to my question to mean that you cannot back up what you claimed to be factual.

The ball is in your court. Either you can back up your claims, or be known as a liar.



Or I ignore you and allow you to be known as an idiot. Go play with LTG.

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:lol: :lol: Please. What a garbage reply.

I'll take your lack of response to my question to mean that you cannot back up what you claimed to be factual.

The ball is in your court. Either you can back up your claims, or be known as a liar.



Or I ignore you and allow you to be known as an idiot. Go play with LTG.


Obligatory LTG reference must mean that Jorr has been caught in another of his patented lies again.

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Or I ignore you and allow you to be known as an idiot. Go play with LTG.
:lol: You quoted the question each time I asked, and now have quoted me again. Real good job of ignoring.

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Or I ignore you and allow you to be known as an idiot. Go play with LTG.


Obligatory LTG reference must mean that Jorr has been caught in another of his patented lies again.


Yep!

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There what is? The government is holding people charged with misdemanors or not charged at all indefinitely. If Russia were doing that you'd have no trouble recognizing them as political prisoners.

And as usual all roads lead back to Twitter!

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CLAIM: Defendants arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot have been “locked up for months on end without being charged.”

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. More than 700 people have been arrested in connection with the riot — and each one has been charged.

THE FACTS: A gubernatorial candidate in Arizona made the false claim in a video that she posted on Twitter on Wednesday.

The video, viewed more than 370,000 times, shows a minute-and-a-half portion of an interview that Republican Kari Lake did with Australia’s “60 Minutes.”

“This was THE most biased interview of my entire life!” Lake wrote in her tweet of the clip.

In the video, interviewer Liam Bartlett asked Lake whether she thought Jan. 6 defendants should be pardoned — as former President Donald Trump, who has endorsed Lake, recently suggested.

Lake, noting that a governor has no control over that, responded: “What I don’t like is that people are being held in prison without being charged. That’s un-American.”

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The military wipes out people today using machines you can't see, let alone shoot to disarm out of self defense. How is any private citizen/militia going to top that?


Told a client this yesterday.

They can send a small drone that you will never see to blow up your house and your cache of guns.

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Hussra wrote:
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One dude bombed a building in a city.

The military can bomb the city.



But then the the question is "who comprises this military?" Turns out it's made up of an aggregation of those one dudes who bombed a building in a city. The military enlisted ranks are fertile ground for Q-Anon tinfoil hattery. Military can't bomb shit if their enlisted ranks go over to the other side.


This is a different argument like I suggested earlier to JORR. If the debate is just about capabilities between a rebel group and the state then i find it difficult to believe the former can triumph over the latter, assuming the state has no problem using the full extent of its power and might.

If we assume the state collapses under the weight of shifting alliances and mutiny or whatever then sure the landscape changes, but the goalposts shifted. Even still I don't think this scenario supports the idea that an armed population provides a check on the state. It just means that whoever has access to state power - whether by law or by seizing it - has the upper hand.

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Locally, I can see guys with rifles overwhelming a local police force and occupying local government property.

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There's a revolution happening in the Netherlands right now. It isn't getting much coverage though.

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Or is there?

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