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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

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Weird thread.

If I'm following what happened...The WHITE kid got in a fight and beaten up...the fight broke up and the kid sat down on some random porch step(back yard appears fenced, so it must have been a front or side porch step or a bench in the yard)...another boy, BLACK, presumably the WHITE boys friend, walks over to check on him.

WHITE, homeowner walks outside and says "What's all this then?!". The boys attempt to be on there way...homeowner stops them and chooses to assault the BLACK boy, rather than the beaten up WHITE boy...WHITE boy films incident as it gets out of control...bitchy woman of the house has a couple of choice words for the boys.


Did the black boy help beat up the white kid? We don't know from that video. We need to wait to find out. The cop may be a hero for saving the other kid's life.

Stop automatically and reflexively blaming the cop without regard for the whole story, Nas. This post must have been made because you are a white guy and hate all police officers because you once got a DUI.


This post was made becomes as shakes pointed out earlier, logic seems to be elusive to you.

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Weird thread.

If I'm following what happened...The WHITE kid got in a fight and beaten up...the fight broke up and the kid sat down on some random porch step(back yard appears fenced, so it must have been a front or side porch step or a bench in the yard)...another boy, BLACK, presumably the WHITE boys friend, walks over to check on him.

WHITE, homeowner walks outside and says "What's all this then?!". The boys attempt to be on there way...homeowner stops them and chooses to assault the BLACK boy, rather than the beaten up WHITE boy...WHITE boy films incident as it gets out of control...bitchy woman of the house has a couple of choice words for the boys.


Did the black boy help beat up the white kid? We don't know from that video. We need to wait to find out. The cop may be a hero for saving the other kid's life.

Stop automatically and reflexively blaming the cop without regard for the whole story, Nas. This post must have been made because you are a white guy and hate all police officers because you once got a DUI.


I'm just going to wait until I see more video. Why did the kid start recording then? What happened to video of the earlier incident. Does Tyrone look like a thug?

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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

Well, if you want to go down that road then nobody in this thread has any business commenting on it since we don't know all the exact details.

Or, you know, you could apply a little common sense and empathy and realize that there is very little the black kid could have reasonably done to deserve what the cop was doing to him. But you'd rather just make up lies about other posters because that's your thing. Very Christian of you.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Weird thread.

If I'm following what happened...The WHITE kid got in a fight and beaten up...the fight broke up and the kid sat down on some random porch step(back yard appears fenced, so it must have been a front or side porch step or a bench in the yard)...another boy, BLACK, presumably the WHITE boys friend, walks over to check on him.

WHITE, homeowner walks outside and says "What's all this then?!". The boys attempt to be on there way...homeowner stops them and chooses to assault the BLACK boy, rather than the beaten up WHITE boy...WHITE boy films incident as it gets out of control...bitchy woman of the house has a couple of choice words for the boys.


Did the black boy help beat up the white kid? We don't know from that video. We need to wait to find out. The cop may be a hero for saving the other kid's life.

Stop automatically and reflexively blaming the cop without regard for the whole story, Nas. This post must have been made because you are a white guy and hate all police officers because you once got a DUI.


This post was made because as shakes pointed out earlier, logic seems to be elusive to you.

This response makes zero sense to the posts you quoted. Do better.

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Nas wrote:
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Weird thread.

If I'm following what happened...The WHITE kid got in a fight and beaten up...the fight broke up and the kid sat down on some random porch step(back yard appears fenced, so it must have been a front or side porch step or a bench in the yard)...another boy, BLACK, presumably the WHITE boys friend, walks over to check on him.

WHITE, homeowner walks outside and says "What's all this then?!". The boys attempt to be on there way...homeowner stops them and chooses to assault the BLACK boy, rather than the beaten up WHITE boy...WHITE boy films incident as it gets out of control...bitchy woman of the house has a couple of choice words for the boys.


Did the black boy help beat up the white kid? We don't know from that video. We need to wait to find out. The cop may be a hero for saving the other kid's life.

Stop automatically and reflexively blaming the cop without regard for the whole story, Nas. This post must have been made because you are a white guy and hate all police officers because you once got a DUI.


I'm just going to wait until I see more video. Why did the kid start recording then? What happened to video of the earlier incident. Does Tyrone look like a thug?

I don't know. I can't conment on it because I'm white. Seacrest, who is also white, can give you his opinion though.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

Well, if you want to go down that road then nobody in this thread has any business commenting on it since we don't know all the exact details.

Or, you know, you could apply a little common sense and empathy and realize that there is very little the black kid could have reasonably done to deserve what the cop was doing to him. But you'd rather just make up lies about other posters because that's your thing. Very Christian of you.


I can have empathy for the black kid, while not accusing the cop of something serious without knowing the facts.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. And exactly what would be required of a Christian.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

Well, if you want to go down that road then nobody in this thread has any business commenting on it since we don't know all the exact details.

Or, you know, you could apply a little common sense and empathy and realize that there is very little the black kid could have reasonably done to deserve what the cop was doing to him. But you'd rather just make up lies about other posters because that's your thing. Very Christian of you.


I can have empathy for the black kid, while not accusing the cop of something serious without knowing the facts.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. And exactly what would be required of a Christian.

It's fair to accuse the cop of something when there is video proof of that thing happening. It's fair to say he used excessive force and his handling of the situation was wrong. Unless the black kid had a weapon on him and was threatening the cop(this almost certainly is not the case if you read all the info available) the cop's actions are inexcusable, except to a certain segment of the board and general population.

Aren't Christians not supposed to lie? You need to improve on that one.

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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Weird thread.

If I'm following what happened...The WHITE kid got in a fight and beaten up...the fight broke up and the kid sat down on some random porch step(back yard appears fenced, so it must have been a front or side porch step or a bench in the yard)...another boy, BLACK, presumably the WHITE boys friend, walks over to check on him.

WHITE, homeowner walks outside and says "What's all this then?!". The boys attempt to be on there way...homeowner stops them and chooses to assault the BLACK boy, rather than the beaten up WHITE boy...WHITE boy films incident as it gets out of control...bitchy woman of the house has a couple of choice words for the boys.


Did the black boy help beat up the white kid? We don't know from that video. We need to wait to find out. The cop may be a hero for saving the other kid's life.

Stop automatically and reflexively blaming the cop without regard for the whole story, Nas. This post must have been made because you are a white guy and hate all police officers because you once got a DUI.


I'm just going to wait until I see more video. Why did the kid start recording then? What happened to video of the earlier incident. Does Tyrone look like a thug?

I don't know. I can't conment on it because I'm white. Seacrest, who is also white, can give you his opinion though.


You can and did comment.

You could have commented without assigning blame to the cop. You chose not to.

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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

Well, if you want to go down that road then nobody in this thread has any business commenting on it since we don't know all the exact details.

Or, you know, you could apply a little common sense and empathy and realize that there is very little the black kid could have reasonably done to deserve what the cop was doing to him. But you'd rather just make up lies about other posters because that's your thing. Very Christian of you.


I can have empathy for the black kid, while not accusing the cop of something serious without knowing the facts.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. And exactly what would be required of a Christian.

It's fair to accuse the cop of something when there is video proof of that thing happening. It's fair to say he used excessive force and his handling of the situation was wrong. Unless the black kid had a weapon on him and was threatening the cop(this almost certainly is not the case if you read all the info available) the cop's actions are inexcusable, except to a certain segment of the board and general population.

Aren't Christians not supposed to lie? You need to improve on that one.


You don't know what happened. I don't either.

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The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Who automatically and reflexively blamed the cop without regard for the whole story, seacrest? You just can't stop making things up, just like DiCaro.


You have no idea what immediately precipitated the cop grabbing the kid. Nor does anyone else here. This is a fact that keeps coming up and yet you don't want to acknowledge the obvious.

Well, if you want to go down that road then nobody in this thread has any business commenting on it since we don't know all the exact details.

Or, you know, you could apply a little common sense and empathy and realize that there is very little the black kid could have reasonably done to deserve what the cop was doing to him. But you'd rather just make up lies about other posters because that's your thing. Very Christian of you.


I can have empathy for the black kid, while not accusing the cop of something serious without knowing the facts.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. And exactly what would be required of a Christian.

It's fair to accuse the cop of something when there is video proof of that thing happening. It's fair to say he used excessive force and his handling of the situation was wrong. Unless the black kid had a weapon on him and was threatening the cop(this almost certainly is not the case if you read all the info available) the cop's actions are inexcusable, except to a certain segment of the board and general population.

Aren't Christians not supposed to lie? You need to improve on that one.


You don't know what happened. I don't either.

I know SOME of what happened. Your only response to everything in this case is "wait and see" because everything we've seen and read so far indicates that I am right about this.

It's funny that you think I'm making false assumptions in this case when there is actually some video evidence backing my opinion up, whereas you have no problem making false assumptions about me without a shred of evidence.

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The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.

Seacrest has a lot of empathy for the 15 year old but doesn't think the video shows the homeowner being in the wrong. :lol: :lol:

Wait and see

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GoldenJet wrote:
The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.


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Race has nothing to do with this in my eyes, it has to do with a grown man putting his hands on a kid. I can tell you this, if this was my kid this guy would have some serious problems.


I think this a fair statement based on what we know. And I would feel the same way if it was my son.

But the automatic assignment of racism by white suburbanites is over the top.

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Seacrest wrote:
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The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.


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Race has nothing to do with this in my eyes, it has to do with a grown man putting his hands on a kid. I can tell you this, if this was my kid this guy would have some serious problems.


I think this a fair statement based on what we know. And I would feel the same way if it was my son.

But the automatic assignment of racism by white suburbanites is over the top.

Ok so you're backtracking and now admitting the homeowner was wrong. That's progress.

Now try to answer this. If a black person thought the crime was racially motivated, is that still over the top? Can you at least understand why this looks like it is probably racially motivated?

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FavreFan wrote:
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The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.


Free Ajent wrote:
Race has nothing to do with this in my eyes, it has to do with a grown man putting his hands on a kid. I can tell you this, if this was my kid this guy would have some serious problems.


I think this a fair statement based on what we know. And I would feel the same way if it was my son.

But the automatic assignment of racism by white suburbanites is over the top.

Ok so you're backtracking and now admitting the homeowner was wrong. That's progress.

Now try to answer this. If a black person thought the crime was racially motivated, is that still over the top? Can you at least understand why this looks like it is probably racially motivated?


I haven't backtracked one bit. I don't HAVE to make a judgement. Nor do you.

And you are NOT a black person. And I find the insinuation that black people need white guys like your self to yell racism for them, racist and offensive. RR and Nas don't need folks like you, or me, to do their bidding for them. And calling someone a racist may make you feel good, but it isn't necessary in this case, yet. And may never be.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Seacrest wrote:
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The homeowner is clearly assaulting a 15 year old black boy.


Free Ajent wrote:
Race has nothing to do with this in my eyes, it has to do with a grown man putting his hands on a kid. I can tell you this, if this was my kid this guy would have some serious problems.


I think this a fair statement based on what we know. And I would feel the same way if it was my son.

But the automatic assignment of racism by white suburbanites is over the top.

Ok so you're backtracking and now admitting the homeowner was wrong. That's progress.

Now try to answer this. If a black person thought the crime was racially motivated, is that still over the top? Can you at least understand why this looks like it is probably racially motivated?


I haven't backtracked one bit. I don't HAVE to make a judgement. Nor do you.

And you are NOT a black person. And I find the insinuation that black people need white guys like your self to yell racism for them, racist and offensive. RR and Nas don't need folks like you, or me, to do their bidding for them. And calling someone a racist may make you feel good, but it isn't necessary in this case, yet. And may never be.

:lol:

You must be pretty easily offended then. I'm not speaking for Nas, RR, or any black people. Im doing the same exact thing YOU and everyone else here is doing, reading an article, watching a video, and giving my opinion on it. If that offends you then I suggest you stop being so sensitive.

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And you never answered my question. Shocking.

You're so full of shit it runs out your ears.

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Everyone here can see where this looks racially motivated. It doesn't logically follow that the suburban white guy needs to yell racist based on what it looks like.

Because what the average white suburbanite DOES NOT understand, but RR and Nas do understand is this: it sucks to be profiled. And that is exactly what you have done.

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Everyone here can see where this looks racially motivated. It doesn't logically follow that the suburban white guy needs to yell racist based on what it looks like.

Because what the average white suburbanite DOES NOT understand, but RR and Nas do understand is this: it sucks to be profiled. And that is exactly what you have done.

Good chat.

How did I profile? I watched a video, read the background of what we know, and made an informed observation on the likely motivations behind a man assaulting a kid.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess RR and Nas won't have your back on this one. Maybe I'm wrong.

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I must be missing some video or something. The Huff Post video shows the cop holding him down. I don't see any headlocks, beatings, etc.

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So is this just you embarrassing yourself because you think you have some beef with me? You went from telling everyone to wait and see and saying I was being over the top. You even lied about why I said what I said. Now you're backtracking to the point of admitting it looks like assault and admitting it looks racially motivated, but you're only offended that I'm one of the people pointing it out? That's a pretty solid summation of your contributions to this thread, Seacrest.

Maybe stop being such a whiny little bitch.

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Everyone here can see where this looks racially motivated. It doesn't logically follow that the suburban white guy needs to yell racist based on what it looks like.

Because what the average white suburbanite DOES NOT understand, but RR and Nas do understand is this: it sucks to be profiled. And that is exactly what you have done.

Good chat.

How did I profile? I watched a video, read the background of what we know, and made an informed observation on the likely motivations behind a man assaulting a kid.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess RR and Nas won't have your back on this one. Maybe I'm wrong.


Just like white cops make observations on a persons skin color.

And in another attempt to make this about yourself, which is the often the underlying reason that DiCaro goes on SJW crusades, you are claiming I have some personal animus toward you.

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Everyone here can see where this looks racially motivated. It doesn't logically follow that the suburban white guy needs to yell racist based on what it looks like.

Because what the average white suburbanite DOES NOT understand, but RR and Nas do understand is this: it sucks to be profiled. And that is exactly what you have done.

Good chat.

How did I profile? I watched a video, read the background of what we know, and made an informed observation on the likely motivations behind a man assaulting a kid.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess RR and Nas won't have your back on this one. Maybe I'm wrong.


Just like white cops make observations on a persons skin color.

And in another attempt to make this about yourself, which is the often the underlying reason that DiCaro goes on SJW crusades, you are claiming I have some personal animus toward you.

I'm just wondering why you flipped your opinion 180 degrees mid thread. Go back and read all your posts in this thread. You went from completely disagreeing with me and lying about why I said what I said to completely agreeing with me that it looks like assault and looks like it could be racially motivated. Obviously I'm going to question why you singled me out to respond to and to lie about.

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A couple of questions.

Do you really find it impossible to be upset about a situation, and still realize that it's prudent to wait until you hear from both sides?

And do you make decisions in life based upon others having your back?

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A couple of questions.

Do you really find it impossible to be upset about a situation, and still realize that it's prudent to wait until you hear from both sides?

And do you make decisions in life based upon others having your back?

No, but that's not what you did here. You started out saying wait and see, and then went at me for criticizing the homeowner/cop. A short while later, with no new information being provided, you decided it did look like the cop was assaulting the kid and you agreed you could see where it is racially motivated. Can't blame me for saying you're full of shit after that.

No

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This isn't an official Lodge statement but I try not to call people racist without a lot of proof. If I decided I wasn't going to wait for more information I would call this cop an asshole and a coward for profiling and beating up a kid because of how he looked. The camera is the only reason he may be reprimanded for his behavior.

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FavreFan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
A couple of questions.

Do you really find it impossible to be upset about a situation, and still realize that it's prudent to wait until you hear from both sides?

And do you make decisions in life based upon others having your back?

No, but that's not what you did here. You started out saying wait and see, and then went at me for criticizing the homeowner/cop. A short while later, with no new information being provided, you decided it did look like the cop was assaulting the kid and you agreed you could see where it is racially motivated. Can't blame me for saying you're full of shit after that.

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I'm criticizing your calling the cop a racist. I still am.

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Seacrest wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
A couple of questions.

Do you really find it impossible to be upset about a situation, and still realize that it's prudent to wait until you hear from both sides?

And do you make decisions in life based upon others having your back?

No, but that's not what you did here. You started out saying wait and see, and then went at me for criticizing the homeowner/cop. A short while later, with no new information being provided, you decided it did look like the cop was assaulting the kid and you agreed you could see where it is racially motivated. Can't blame me for saying you're full of shit after that.

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I'm criticizing your calling the cop a racist. I still am.

Even though you said we can all see where this looks like it was racially motivated?

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