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So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

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Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


I just saw how the WHO spokesperson has also refused to report on the great success that Taiwan has had in fighting the Virus and would not answer any questions regarding why the WHO hasn't paid any attention to WHY Taiwan has been successful and has rather continued to praise CHINA unrelentingly or their dealing with the China flu. Of course, the reason WHY Taiwan has been successful has been that they were the FIRST COUNTRY to block travelers from CHina into their country, three days I believe, before Trump shut them out. There is no doubt in my mind that China would have used this virus as a weapon and would have loved to infect Taiwan in an effort to make their conquest easier.

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Antarctica wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


So what do you think will play out in the next few months? With Europe start to get out of the Huawei deals?

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Canada, Australia and the USA's own damn soil contain plenty of them to do whatever we want.


Yep and also Mexico has an operation going on right now in a couple of its states looking to mine rare earth.


Try going back to cheerleading the foolish trump China deal and how trump had the upper hand.

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Antarctica wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
So what do you think will play out in the next few months? With Europe start to get out of the Huawei deals?

Well only the UK is in with Huawei at the moment. France and Germany were on the verge of doing the same but all this has happened.

It doesn't look like anyone is going to get out ahead on China until they see the disease mostly eradicated from their soil. But there is permanent anti-China resentment now entrenched in a lot of places that before were mostly ambivalent.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Antarctica wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


So what do you think will play out in the next few months? With Europe start to get out of the Huawei deals?


Ah the Huawei problem. Something the US has been trying to dissuade Europe from doing for a while now. Maybe this gets it done.

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Antarctica wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
So are we going to nuke China or not?


What's interesting is that the public sources state that China has only 290 nuclear warheads. That doesn't seem possible.

Their options are having a weak nuclear arsenal or finding themselves in a Cold War-style arms race catching up with the USA. The prudent solution for decades has been for to maintain a nuclear deterrent without appearing menacing. That strategy has worked very well, they still bully and intimidate their neighbours but in the USA and Europe they really have not appeared a threat to world peace.

There are people in the DOD who have surmised, knowing obviously way more than any of us do, that China may have followed this strategy so far that they no longer have a credible nuclear deterrent. That's a weakness the USA could exploit, but its also a dangerous game to play.

Right now the real game is to stop China's little divide-and-conquer tactic with Europe, which already is going so poorly there's not much the USA needs to do. You'll notice Trump has stopped his bluster, he calls it corona again. I suspect that is a purposeful switch he has been told to make by the DOD and intelligence apparatus. No need to give China the opportunity to play off Trump's unpopularity in Europe, especially with what is going on in Spain and the Netherlands. High ranking EU diplomats are no publicly telling China to fuck off with their relief efforts, the USA is hoping that catches on in the member states


I'd agree wholeheartedly but for the facts that the Kim's have South Korea and Japan understandably petrified, and we've left Taiwan out to dry for 60 years. Not to mention our tens of thousands of roops vulnerable to a first strike from those maniacs.

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Well, it is official. The pandemic is over if you believe the truthfulness and wonderfulness of China. Wuhan Province as well as other major and smaller cities have re-opened their WET MARKETS as if nothing has transpired in the world over the hundreds of thousands of deaths thus far and many more to follow.

So, all you fellows and lady that appreciate fine dining, get on your planes and head for China in order to order the delicacies provided in Wuhan's finest markets. You can feast later on bats, snakes, rats, cats, dogs, lizards, very large spiders, and other species not seen in civilized countries EVER. All presented to you in open air, fly infested, feces laden, 3rd world market motif. This is the standard in which many in the liberal realm can't stop themselves from praising. Huzzah for them, eh?

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Canada, Australia and the USA's own damn soil contain plenty of them to do whatever we want.


Yep and also Mexico has an operation going on right now in a couple of its states looking to mine rare earth.


Try going back to cheerleading the foolish trump China deal and how trump had the upper hand.


To deny that Trump doesn't have a world wide upper hand regarding China is insane. Even though your paper the NYT blames Christians for the China Virus among other bird cage lining articles. I guess that Xi will get their Person of the Year award or whatever drivel name they give it. After all, Adolf Hitler got it once or twice.

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Canada, Australia and the USA's own damn soil contain plenty of them to do whatever we want.


Yep and also Mexico has an operation going on right now in a couple of its states looking to mine rare earth.


Try going back to cheerleading the foolish trump China deal and how trump had the upper hand.


To deny that Trump doesn't have a world wide upper hand regarding China is insane. Even though your paper the NYT blames Christians for the China Virus among other bird cage lining articles. I guess that Xi will get their Person of the Year award or whatever drivel name they give it. After all, Adolf Hitler got it once or twice.


You mean the trump pandemic :wink:

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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


:lol:

Do you have any original thought of your own, or are you going to persist in your Birch Society handlers/patrons battles of 1961? I haven't seen the Red Scare tactics worked so hard since the days of the dixiecrats.

I hope they at least pay well for you to embarass yourself this thoroughly?

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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


:lol:

Do you have any original thought of your own, or are you going to persist in your Birch Society handlers/patrons battles of 1961? I haven't seen the Red Scare tactics worked so hard since the days of the dixiecrats.

I hope they at least pay well for you to embarass yourself this thoroughly?


You honestly think the John Birch Society, which is about as dead as can be is more dangerous to the world than China? And that Trump is responsible for the virus?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


:lol:

Do you have any original thought of your own, or are you going to persist in your Birch Society handlers/patrons battles of 1961? I haven't seen the Red Scare tactics worked so hard since the days of the dixiecrats.

I hope they at least pay well for you to embarass yourself this thoroughly?


You honestly think the John Birch Society, which is about as dead as can be is more dangerous to the world than China? And that Trump is responsible for the virus?


Was there ever any doubt as to whether the actual point would be misconstrued?

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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


:lol:

Do you have any original thought of your own, or are you going to persist in your Birch Society handlers/patrons battles of 1961? I haven't seen the Red Scare tactics worked so hard since the days of the dixiecrats.

I hope they at least pay well for you to embarass yourself this thoroughly?

Defending China like this is treasonous.


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Another liberal who hates Trump so much that he'll become a propaganda stooge for the most amoral global power since the post-Khrushchev Soviet Union, if not even worse than that.


:lol:

Do you have any original thought of your own, or are you going to persist in your Birch Society handlers/patrons battles of 1961? I haven't seen the Red Scare tactics worked so hard since the days of the dixiecrats.

I hope they at least pay well for you to embarass yourself this thoroughly?

Defending China like this is treasonous.


Coming from a kid who has admitted to being a paid right wing troll, this is hilarious.

I doubt there was a discussion of the WHO, or a positive spin about the Chinese government by anyone on this board until you and the other couple of board trolls started bleating about nutty right wing fantasyland crap you nitwits allegedly read on reddit, 4/8chan or twitter.

Whining about it from New Zealand, Africa and France makes it even more ridiculous from you on it's face.

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Coming from a kid who has admitted to being a paid right wing troll, this is hilarious.

I doubt there was a discussion of the WHO, or a positive spin about the Chinese government by anyone on this board until you and the other couple of board trolls started bleating about nutty right wing fantasyland crap you nitwits allegedly read on reddit, 4/8chan or twitter.

Whining about it from New Zealand, Africa and France makes it even more ridiculous from you on it's face.

You get so mad when somebody goes after your precious China. Its a bad look these days. I would take a second if I were you, go pray to your full size portrait for Chairman Mao.


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Coming from a kid who has admitted to being a paid right wing troll, this is hilarious.

I doubt there was a discussion of the WHO, or a positive spin about the Chinese government by anyone on this board until you and the other couple of board trolls started bleating about nutty right wing fantasyland crap you nitwits allegedly read on reddit, 4/8chan or twitter.

Whining about it from New Zealand, Africa and France makes it even more ridiculous from you on it's face.

You get so mad when somebody goes after your precious China. Its a bad look these days. I would take a second if I were you, go pray to your full size portrait for Chairman Mao.



RR probably wore out his Che Guevara shirt while a "yute" and now proudly wears his Premier Xi jersey proudly.

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Coming from a kid who has admitted to being a paid right wing troll, this is hilarious.

I doubt there was a discussion of the WHO, or a positive spin about the Chinese government by anyone on this board until you and the other couple of board trolls started bleating about nutty right wing fantasyland crap you nitwits allegedly read on reddit, 4/8chan or twitter.

Whining about it from New Zealand, Africa and France makes it even more ridiculous from you on it's face.

You get so mad when somebody goes after your precious China. Its a bad look these days. I would take a second if I were you, go pray to your full size portrait for Chairman Mao.



RR probably wore out his Che Guevara shirt while a "yute" and now proudly wears his Premier Xi jersey proudly.


Great! Now we have the befuddled old fool liar and little weird incel finding a common bond. :lol:

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Reader has become a bitter old man yelling at clouds. Pathetic. And un americano.

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Well if he yells at you, it’s not so much yelling at a cloud, but more like a fart in the wind.

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Reader has become a bitter old man yelling at clouds. Pathetic. And un americano.

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Well if he yells at you, it’s not so much yelling at a cloud, but more like a fart in the wind.

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Canada, Australia and the USA's own damn soil contain plenty of them to do whatever we want.


Yep and also Mexico has an operation going on right now in a couple of its states looking to mine rare earth.


Try going back to cheerleading the foolish trump China deal and how trump had the upper hand.

I read the board but am a light poster.

But, my God, you are a broken record. Everything would be prefect without Trump, I guess. Every thread turns into this crap.

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You know what is scary to think about? Does anyone here really think that nobody from the Chinese Government has happened upon this website yet?

Isn't it fucked-up, but totally plausible and even sensible to believe?

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You know what is scary to think about? Does anyone here really think that nobody from the Chinese Government has happened upon this website yet?

Isn't it fucked-up, but totally plausible and even sensible to believe?


They were alerted by the red hippo

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You know what is scary to think about? Does anyone here really think that nobody from the Chinese Government has happened upon this website yet?

Isn't it fucked-up, but totally plausible and even sensible to believe?


Know what is scary to think about?

That someone would actually type that "totally plausible and sensible" post.

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