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The amount of ignorant things Scorehead says on a daily basis on this site is mind-boggling.

True, but I'm not sure this is one of them.

Small business owners usually "take care of" a variety customers - usually when they think there is something "in it" for them as the owner.

Maybe it's comping a regular to ensure their continued patronage, maybe it's letting ladies in free in order to get the guy's $$ in the building - or maybe it's to cops in order to feel "protected". It's not as crazy as some people are trying to make it seem.


So you're trying to equate giving the local car salesman, pool guy, and contractor a price break is in no way materially different than comping a cop in the off chance he might have to do his job in or around your business?

Well, that's not what I said, so...........

I'm not the "typical criminal", at least I don't think I am, but if I were trying to decide what place to rob, I would probably not go to the pizza place that frequently has police dining there.

It's not hard to understand what I'm saying.

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spanky wrote:
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The amount of ignorant things Scorehead says on a daily basis on this site is mind-boggling.

True, but I'm not sure this is one of them.

Small business owners usually "take care of" a variety customers - usually when they think there is something "in it" for them as the owner.

Maybe it's comping a regular to ensure their continued patronage, maybe it's letting ladies in free in order to get the guy's $$ in the building - or maybe it's to cops in order to feel "protected". It's not as crazy as some people are trying to make it seem.


So you're trying to equate giving the local car salesman, pool guy, and contractor a price break is in no way materially different than comping a cop in the off chance he might have to do his job in or around your business?

Well, that's not what I said, so...........



I'm not the "typical criminal", at least I don't think I am, but if I were trying to decide what place to rob, I would probably not go to the pizza place that frequently has police dining there.

It's not hard to understand what I'm saying.


i think the difference here is comping a regular to ensure continued patronage is a decision the store owner is making themselves. often times cops EXPECT such things or owners feel some kind of pressure to do so

there's a Police Squad episode about this


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i think the difference here is comping a regular to ensure continued patronage is a decision the store owner is making themselves. often times cops EXPECT such things or owners feel some kind of pressure to do so

I'm not sure there isn't an expectation that a regular customer gets comped at a store he usually goes to either.
That's why there are hurt feelings during the times that they don't get the preferential treatment.

Either way - we are now trying to read the minds of cops/customers. The business owners make a choice that (they believe) benefits their business.

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I'm not the "typical criminal", at least I don't think I am, but if I were trying to decide what place to rob, I would probably not go to the pizza place that frequently has police dining there.
If the guy never opened up the local pizza place, he never would have been robbed.

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I'm not the "typical criminal", at least I don't think I am, but if I were trying to decide what place to rob, I would probably not go to the pizza place that frequently has police dining there.
If the guy never opened up the local pizza place, he never would have been robbed.

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the thing i don't like is all the discounts and free food they seem entitled too


If you owned a store or restaurant, wouldn't you take care of the cops too? I sure the heck would.


Don't you already take care of them in the taxes you're always complaining about? I guess you can find the money to give more welfare to cops who are eating instead of doing their fucking jobs.

The amount of ignorant things Scorehead says on a daily basis on this site is mind-boggling.


What is ignorant about acknowledging that people take care of cops for a reason? I would most certainly take care of them.

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It's readily apparent we've come to the point where every cop should have a camera recording all of their interactions with the public. Shit like this happens too often, breaking down the wrong door and shooting grandma, shooting unarmed men or kids with toy guns, etc.

If they're doing nothing wrong, then they've got nothing to fear. This shit's gotta stop.

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spanky wrote:
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The amount of ignorant things Scorehead says on a daily basis on this site is mind-boggling.

True, but I'm not sure this is one of them.

Small business owners usually "take care of" a variety customers - usually when they think there is something "in it" for them as the owner.

Maybe it's comping a regular to ensure their continued patronage, maybe it's letting ladies in free in order to get the guy's $$ in the building - or maybe it's to cops in order to feel "protected". It's not as crazy as some people are trying to make it seem.


It is hard to believe that this must be explained to people...especially city dwellers who should know how things work.

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It is hard to belie that this must be explained to people...especially city dwellers who should know how things work.


yea, everyone knows how it works...wink, wink..


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Scorehead knows how everything works everywhere. He should be POTUS, GM For the Hawks, Bears, and Cubs, program director for The Score, Sales Manager for everybody's everything. He's so good he could do all that and still have 25 cent oysters every week.

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It's readily apparent we've come to the point where every cop should have a camera recording all of their interactions with the public. Shit like this happens too often, breaking down the wrong door and shooting grandma, shooting unarmed men or kids with toy guns, etc.

If they're doing nothing wrong, then they've got nothing to fear. This shit's gotta stop.


It shields citizens from cops doing things the wrong way.

It shields cops from baseless accusations and lawsuits.

It's 100% beneficial for everyone EXCEPT citizens and cops doing illegal and immoral things.

It should be the fastest statutes and laws ever passed in the history of this nation.

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And we could use the red light camera revenue to pay for it.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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It's readily apparent we've come to the point where every cop should have a camera recording all of their interactions with the public. Shit like this happens too often, breaking down the wrong door and shooting grandma, shooting unarmed men or kids with toy guns, etc.

If they're doing nothing wrong, then they've got nothing to fear. This shit's gotta stop.


It shields citizens from cops doing things the wrong way.

It shields cops from baseless accusations and lawsuits.

It's 100% beneficial for everyone EXCEPT citizens and cops doing illegal and immoral things.

It should be the fastest statutes and laws ever passed in the history of this nation.

Yep. Instead we have private citizens phones being confiscated for recording police interactions with the public and courts upholding the seizures, unfuckingbelievable.

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And we could use the red light camera revenue to pay for it.


Or, you know, not buy a new cache of military surplus toys for a couple years.

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i think the difference here is comping a regular to ensure continued patronage is a decision the store owner is making themselves. often times cops EXPECT such things or owners feel some kind of pressure to do so

I'm not sure there isn't an expectation that a regular customer gets comped at a store he usually goes to either.
That's why there are hurt feelings during the times that they don't get the preferential treatment.

Either way - we are now trying to read the minds of cops/customers. The business owners make a choice that (they believe) benefits their business.



Come on, dude. You really don't see the difference? What might be the motivation for a guy to give you free coffee and doughnuts? To ensure that you don't flunk his kid? The implication, as Scorehead continues to express via his mistaken belief that we don't understand "how it works", is that the storekeeper won't receive full police service without comping the doughnuts and coffee. You don't receive free doughnuts and coffee, do you? And I'm gonna go out on a limb and read your mind and say you don't expect them either.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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And we could use the red light camera revenue to pay for it.


Or, you know, not buy a new cache of military surplus toys for a couple years.

Yeah, because Barney Fife needs his armored Humvee.

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i think the difference here is comping a regular to ensure continued patronage is a decision the store owner is making themselves. often times cops EXPECT such things or owners feel some kind of pressure to do so

I'm not sure there isn't an expectation that a regular customer gets comped at a store he usually goes to either.
That's why there are hurt feelings during the times that they don't get the preferential treatment.

Either way - we are now trying to read the minds of cops/customers. The business owners make a choice that (they believe) benefits their business.



Come on, dude. You really don't see the difference? What might be the motivation for a guy to give you free coffee and doughnuts? To ensure that you don't flunk his kid? The implication, as Scorehead continues to express via his mistaken belief that we don't understand "how it works", is that the storekeeper won't receive full police service without comping the doughnuts and coffee. You don't receive free doughnuts and coffee, do you? And I'm gonna go out on a limb and read your mind and say you don't expect them either.

I'm not speaking on behalf of scorehead. I'm just saying why I think small business owners tend to do favors for certain groups of consumers.

I'm not a frequent coffee/donut consumer, so that shop owner would have nothing in it for his business to give me those things.

Yes, I have received preferential treatment at businesses I frequent - sometimes small, sometimes larger. I assume you have as well. I'd assume many people have. It's not just small businesses that follow this model - huge corporations have elaborate reward programs set up for the exact reason I'm talking about.

I don't think a pizza place owner gives cops a discount in order to get better service for a break-in 6 months down the road. I think it's in order to show the public (including criminals) that there are routinely police officers there. It's a safe place. Firemen also frequently get discounts at certain businesses - is that in the hope that they actually put the potential fire out a year from now? Or is it to show appreciation for their patronage?

come on, dude. :wink:

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Don Tiny wrote:
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It's readily apparent we've come to the point where every cop should have a camera recording all of their interactions with the public. Shit like this happens too often, breaking down the wrong door and shooting grandma, shooting unarmed men or kids with toy guns, etc.

If they're doing nothing wrong, then they've got nothing to fear. This shit's gotta stop.


It shields citizens from cops doing things the wrong way.

It shields cops from baseless accusations and lawsuits.

It's 100% beneficial for everyone EXCEPT citizens and cops doing illegal and immoral things.

It should be the fastest statutes and laws ever passed in the history of this nation.


It's been piloted.

It ended up working.


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I don't think a pizza place owner gives cops a discount in order to get better service for a break-in 6 months down the road. I think it's in order to show the public (including criminals) that there are routinely police officers there. It's a safe place. Firemen also frequently get discounts at certain businesses - is that in the hope that they actually put the potential fire out a year from now? Or is it to show appreciation for their patronage?


you're right, i'm sure it's just showing appreciation for their patronage. that's why construction workers, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, movers, cab drivers, receptionists, waiters, busboys, pilots, dog walkers, painters and landscapers all get discounts too right ?


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I don't think a pizza place owner gives cops a discount in order to get better service for a break-in 6 months down the road. I think it's in order to show the public (including criminals) that there are routinely police officers there. It's a safe place. Firemen also frequently get discounts at certain businesses - is that in the hope that they actually put the potential fire out a year from now? Or is it to show appreciation for their patronage?

When I worked at Oberweis in high school we gave cops/firemen discounts for no reason other than they were cops/firemen. Never were regulars. I think it's pretty common when they're in uniform.


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I don't think a pizza place owner gives cops a discount in order to get better service for a break-in 6 months down the road. I think it's in order to show the public (including criminals) that there are routinely police officers there. It's a safe place. Firemen also frequently get discounts at certain businesses - is that in the hope that they actually put the potential fire out a year from now? Or is it to show appreciation for their patronage?

When I worked at Oberweis in high school we gave cops/firemen discounts for no reason other than they were cops/firemen. Never were regulars. I think it's pretty common when they're in uniform.



Yeah, we're not talking about buy 20 pizzas, get your next one free. It's about being a cop and expecting all your pizzas free or half-price. And that's part of the informal training the young cop gets from the veteran. Scorehead's Pizza & Pub gives cops free meals. We like Scorehead. Go to Scorehead's.

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I bet Joe Orr has never had preferential treatment at the Cell :lol:

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I don't think a pizza place owner gives cops a discount in order to get better service for a break-in 6 months down the road. I think it's in order to show the public (including criminals) that there are routinely police officers there. It's a safe place. Firemen also frequently get discounts at certain businesses - is that in the hope that they actually put the potential fire out a year from now? Or is it to show appreciation for their patronage?


you're right, i'm sure it's just showing appreciation for their patronage. that's why construction workers, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, movers, cab drivers, receptionists, waiters, busboys, pilots, dog walkers, painters and landscapers all get discounts too right ?

I'm sure many of them do. It happens every day to people of all kinds in varying businesses.
Except maybe dog walkers, because they have to be like, 12 yo, right?


We have 2 local/small butchers in my town (that I know of). To me, both produce fine quality meats.
When I go in to buy meat from them, and one of them occasionally throws in a salad or some type of condiment - and the other does not - I am getting exactly the type of "freebie" that you guys are saying doesn't exist except for crooked cops.
In my example, there is clearly a benefit to both parties. It happens every day to many people.

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I bet Joe Orr has never had preferential treatment at the Cell :lol:


:lol: Shit they don't even know who I am. But I'm betting all those guys walking around in uniforms got in for free.

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The cops would probably be killing more people if they weren't getting free food. We should be applauding this behavior.

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I wonder why many of these same coffee shops and pizza places give members of the military the same type of discounts?

The reasons are clear:

1. Those crooked soldiers probably expect it.
2. So that way, the soldiers will go out and fight/defend our country better on behalf of the pizza place next year.

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I used to get free soda back in my iceman days. One nasty ass all-you-can-eat buffet in Springfield always gave me a takeout container. I would fill it, then chuck it in a trash can at my next stop. Pretty sure they boiled everything in butter.

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