North Korea will fuck you, a frat guy might fuck you.

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If you think it were a big deal then the United States would have stopped the practice years ago. THere hasn't been real outrage because if there were people wouldn't be accused of being apologists simply for looking at the opposite side of the issue. I never hear you calling for an end to the practice either.

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I am against the killing of innocent civilians in other countries and in our own. Did you think I felt otherwise?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I haven't heard a lot of angst from you about it. I will take your word for it. My point is that we need to look at the bombing of these countries whenever we rail against terrorism. There is a direct correlation. Antipathy towards the U.S. is based on policy not culture or religion. History supports this too.

Whenever people talk about "attacks against America" It's laughable and also insulting.

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I hardly think anyone complaining in this thread gave 2 shits when we killed thousands of civilians via drone strikes. The Dems were silent because it was Obama doing it and the Republicans were silent because they supported the strikes.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Yep. The spin about Muslims wanting to kill Americans with every dying breath falls flat once you begin to tally the number of military deployments located inside Muslim countries. Yeah they really are on the attack aren't they?

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I cant agree with that statement.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I would love to hear Ogie's thoughts on Israel, a country that has a lot in common with North Korea.

third party estimates put civilian deaths from drone strikes at about 500 over 6 years.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/05/do- ... asualties/

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

That's not even worthy of a response. Now go back to ripping off people via Uber.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Right. Because if out-of-control human rights abuses are your thing Israel is the place to go.

honestly, the US and Europe could learn a thing or two from them about keeping the fucking Muslims out.

It's such a tired argument, and not even relevant to the thread at all. Why are the Muslims the only ones committing terrorist acts if intervention in their countries is the sole criteria to justify terrorism?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I think you have the wrong ideas on Israel. It's a democracy with a free press and freedom of religion. You view on the human rights abuses is heavily distorted. Israel has problems, they are working on them though, but I can at least say Israel (unlike the US) faces a direct existential threat that can justify some of the unsavory things they do.

I can at least sleep well knowing Israel has made proper overtures for peace, and maybe one day the Palestinians will have their own Sadat so that peaces can occur. As of now, they've had nothing but thieves running the PA who rob the aid treasuries to enrich themselves. They reject every fair offer without so much as a counter-offer as they need to be stateless to keep their scam going to rob from UNRWA. Eventually the Palestinians will get fed up with the corruption of their leadership and a Sadat will step forward. On that day there will be peace.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

So at about 1/8 of just the people who died on 9/11.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Wrong on both counts, but it's not surprising given your posting history. Privilege means money until it doesn't in my book and I could give less than a damn about the race of any goofy kid killed by an asshole of any stripe.

Imo, you should think less about posting in your areas of extreme ignorance

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

The problem is that most of the terrorist attacks these days aren't even attempted against us. It's now them vs. virtually everyone including some other Muslim groups.

If it is about America and our actions why are they destroying historical sites and artifacts in huge numbers?

I mean, given that I believe you don't even think Israel has a right to exist I'm pretty sure that you aren't exactly the most neutral observer to this either.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I would argue that most of the terrorism (ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc.) is all geopolitics with the terrorist groups using the religion as a recruiting tool.

As it stands, the Gulf states are propping up Sunni terror groups (Nusra) to fight Shiites and the Iranians are propping up Shiite terror groups (Hezbollah) to fight Sunnis.

Religion just recruits the foot soldiers.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

You really cannot keep your shit straight.

It would be difficult for a religion that demands the establishment of a worldwide Caliphate to ignore geopolitics.

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I think this conflict and the factors/history are well above your level of understanding. I'd suggest traveling to the MidEast if you ever get a chance. You might learn a thing or two.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I would argue that the terror groups themselves aren't the real players here, but their state sponsors are.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

If you believe you have been granted the ultimate truth, and that this life if a practice run, how can you separate that from your decision making here? It's absurd to say, the religious beliefs are secondary.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Who was the state sponsor of Al Queda?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I'm sure you'll get the unvarnished truth living in a country that literally put up a massive wall around itself. I dont need to live in Israel to know how they operate, enough has been written on that already.

You hate the police, but seem to love police-states.

Saudi Arabia.

You realize Israel doesn't have a wall around itself, right? Border with Egypt has no barrier (except around Eilat and that was due to Eritrean and Sudanese migrants crossing from Egypt rather than security threats). Jordanian border is wide open in the Arava Valley. They have a security barrier in built up areas, but that concrete fence you see on the news only exists in very built up areas. Most areas of the West Bank have no security fence, but once again you don't know any of that because you're completely ignorant and unprepared to discuss this topic.

Israel is hardly a police state and if you spent just 24 hours there you would see that. Your ignorance is showing through here.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

They aren't. When we bomb countries without provocation we are just as guilty of committing acts of terrorism. It is not "breaking news" in the U.S when we commit such acts and it's a simple reason for it. It's wrong and News organizations are instructed not to report about it. Definitely not subjected to wall to wall coverage.

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Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, and Afghanistan (pre 2001 war) were state sponsors.

Even when some of those countries cut ties (Saudia Arabia for example), their ruling class doesn't and continues to funnel funds an material support for them.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Correct. It wasn't exactly an accident that Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan either.

U.S. hypocrisy with regards to state sponsors is another in a long list of bones of contentions too. There is all this vitriol regarding religion and terrorism. State sponsors of terrorism who happen to allied are provided with the proverbial free pass each and every time however.

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Isreal doesn't have a wall, except for all these walls they have. You did a very good job explaining the few places along the Israeli border that aren't walled up though. You even let it slip that you know what its called (security fence), which kind of leads me to believe you know exactly what I'm talking about.

And why doesn't Israel do its part to accept refugees from Eritrea and Sudan...you said yourself that they aren't security threats.