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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:27 pm 
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I suppose that's a position, but if so, the Right should stop whining about "fake news".

The worst part of Trump re-branding biased news as FAKE is that actual FAKE NEWS still exists and nobody gives a shit. Trump tweeted out a bunch of it this morning with the apparently staged videos of muslim violence.


That's what FAKE NEWS is. The stuff on patriotusanumberoneamerica.com that makes the over 55 crowd think there are muslims and mexicans hiding under their beds ready to pounce on their jobs, take their guns, and rape their families.


I don't even blame Trump anymore. He's too old to even know better.


I don't think Trump's age has anything to do with it. Someone might call you "ageist". And some things Trump calls "fake news" really are.

I dont care what anyone calls me, people who didn't grow up with the internet are more prone to be taken in by internet bullshit. It's not that theyre too old to be sharp or smart, it's just not their world for the most part.

I know this sounds silly, but it is actually important that we distinguish between FAKE NEWS- totally made up stories like the FB partisan ones or Jayson Blair type stuff and BIASED NEWS- MSNBC obsession with Trump,Fox obsession with Hillary, CNN spin etc.


I don't think there's anything to support your statement. It's not factual.

And you're spinning yourself. Biased news IS fake news. In fact it's worse because it has the sheen of believability. If you believe shit like Comet Pizza, shame on you. This is what passes for "fact checking":

http://thefederalist.com/2017/11/29/cal ... ate-media/

What statement? About people who grew up without the internet being less savvy than people who did? Well, I havent done the research and that was really a throw away line so whatever. Fine, forget the age.



And what do you mean shame on you? That pizza story was fucking huge. It matters. I'm not spinning anything. You cant change the meaning of words.

Focusing on negatives via facts is not FAKE. It's biased.

Making things up out of whole cloth is FAKE.

If the FACTS are not true in the network stories, that's FAKE.

Fake and biased are not synonyms and never will be no matter how much you and the current POTUS want them to be.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:59 pm 
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What statement? About people who grew up without the internet being less savvy than people who did? Well, I havent done the research and that was really a throw away line so whatever. Fine, forget the age.

And what do you mean shame on you? That pizza story was fucking huge. It matters. I'm not spinning anything. You cant change the meaning of words.

Focusing on negatives via facts is not FAKE. It's biased.

Making things up out of whole cloth is FAKE.

If the FACTS are not true in the network stories, that's FAKE.

Fake and biased are not synonyms and never will be no matter how much you and the current POTUS want them to be.


That story was "huge" only in how ridiculous it was. It was promoted via a marginal right wing website. I don't think a whole lot of people really believed it. And yeah, I know one who did came there with his guns.

When your bias causes you to promote lies or half-truths, yeah, that's fake.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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What statement? About people who grew up without the internet being less savvy than people who did? Well, I havent done the research and that was really a throw away line so whatever. Fine, forget the age.

And what do you mean shame on you? That pizza story was fucking huge. It matters. I'm not spinning anything. You cant change the meaning of words.

Focusing on negatives via facts is not FAKE. It's biased.

Making things up out of whole cloth is FAKE.

If the FACTS are not true in the network stories, that's FAKE.

Fake and biased are not synonyms and never will be no matter how much you and the current POTUS want them to be.


That story was "huge" only in how ridiculous it was. It was promoted via a marginal right wing website. I don't think a whole lot of people really believed it. And yeah, I know one who did came there with his guns.

When your bias causes you to promote lies or half-truths, yeah, that's fake.

This is so odd coming from the guy who believes in only one reality and not personal realities. (I agree on that)

In actual reality, biased does not equal fake.

Trump rebranded it (quite the brilliant political move) to take the spotlight off the actual fake stories that helped get him elected and informed his Birth Certificate hunt with Obama.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:04 pm 
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If you read Facebook comments, a lot of people still bring up the pizza story.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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After Penn state, Weinstein, and Jimmy Savile is it too far to suggest that powerful liberals who don't see nine month fetuses as having rights may be kid fuckers on the down low?

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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After Penn state, Weinstein, and Jimmy Savile is it too far to suggest that liberals who don't seen nine month fetuses of having rights may be kid fuckers on the down low?


makes sense


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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
What statement? About people who grew up without the internet being less savvy than people who did? Well, I havent done the research and that was really a throw away line so whatever. Fine, forget the age.

And what do you mean shame on you? That pizza story was fucking huge. It matters. I'm not spinning anything. You cant change the meaning of words.

Focusing on negatives via facts is not FAKE. It's biased.

Making things up out of whole cloth is FAKE.

If the FACTS are not true in the network stories, that's FAKE.

Fake and biased are not synonyms and never will be no matter how much you and the current POTUS want them to be.


That story was "huge" only in how ridiculous it was. It was promoted via a marginal right wing website. I don't think a whole lot of people really believed it. And yeah, I know one who did came there with his guns.

When your bias causes you to promote lies or half-truths, yeah, that's fake.

This is so odd coming from the guy who believes in only one reality and not personal realities. (I agree on that)

In actual reality, biased does not equal fake.

Trump rebranded it (quite the brilliant political move) to take the spotlight off the actual fake stories that helped get him elected and informed his Birth Certificate hunt with Obama.


You really don't see that you're spinning a narrative without factual basis? What are the fake stories that "helped Trump get elected" and what is the evidence that such occurred? That's a Democratic talking point, nothing more.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:39 pm 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

You really don't see that you're spinning a narrative without factual basis? What are the fake stories that "helped Trump get elected" and what is the evidence that such occurred? That's a Democratic talking point, nothing more.

I am not a reporter. This is a message board. Do you provide 2 sources for all your takes here?

It's obvious that you have taken a stand against media bias and are fitting everything into that narrative. The problem is you are now holding the left leaning media and posters to a waaaay more strict guidelines than the right. You're becoming part of the problem from the other side. You pretty much said as much with your personal re-branding of what "fair and balanced" actually means. That you keep attempting to downplay FoxNews being biased hurts the case.

But, just for fun...

The fake story: Obama birther

How it helped him get elected...


https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/ ... ama-muslim

https://www.salon.com/2016/08/11/trumps ... tizenship/


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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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That you keep attempting to downplay FoxNews being biased hurts the case.



:lol: That's never happened. Fox is clearly biased.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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That you keep attempting to downplay FoxNews being biased hurts the case.



:lol: That's never happened. Fox is clearly biased.

Downplaying is not denying it's existence.

And you downplay it by saying "oh yea, but everyone is Bias and Fox is just leveling the playing field"

And before you dismiss it, because it's Salon, it's a story about an NBC poll. And I know, I know, they are biased too.

Ill look for some stuff on Breitbart and FoxNews.com but doubt I'll have much luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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That you keep attempting to downplay FoxNews being biased hurts the case.



:lol: That's never happened. Fox is clearly biased.

Downplaying is not denying it's existence.

And you downplay it by saying "oh yea, but everyone is Bias and Fox is just leveling the playing field"

And before you dismiss it, because it's Salon, it's a story about an NBC poll. And I know, I know, they are biased too.

Ill look for some stuff on Breitbart and FoxNews.com but doubt I'll have much luck.


You're mischaracterizing what I've said. I've clearly stated that is Fox's own explanation of "Fair and Balanced".

I know many people who scoff at Fox News while they get their information from John Oliver and Trevor Noah.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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If you believe shit like Comet Pizza, shame on you.

I don't believe Pizzagate at face value, but do I think Democrats are molesting children and covering it up? I dunno, probably, apparently everyone is.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Veritas
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If you believe shit like Comet Pizza, shame on you.

I don't believe Pizzagate at face value, but do I think Democrats are molesting children and covering it up? I dunno, probably, apparently everyone is.


I didn't necessarily believe it but I didn't NOT believe it either. :lol:

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Might as well just give up tryin' to fight the river and get on board the TrumpWagon!

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