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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Date night? Ok. Maybe your girlfriend. Wife changes things.
Your wife is not a man. A surprise date night is going to be greatly appreciated and enjoyed regardless of if its for your girlfriend of 6 months or your wife of 60 years.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:47 pm 
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Darkside, do you think your advice changes if the wife is also a mother or would you not be qualified to give advice to a couple married with kids?

This is something, even for this place.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:09 pm 
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It's way different how you treat a girlfriend over how you treat a wife though.

That's fair, but Darkside was the only guy in this thread chose to be a dick about it.

Seriously dude, what the fuck. I wasn't being a dick to YOU. I wasn't even being a dick, I was just pointing out that there's a lot of non married guys giving out marriage advice.

Chill out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:11 pm 
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Darkside, do you think your advice changes if the wife is also a mother or would you not be qualified to give advice to a couple married with kids?


I don't know. I'm not married to a mother.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:13 pm 
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Darkside wrote:
Date night? Ok. Maybe your girlfriend. Wife changes things.
Your wife is not a man. A surprise date night is going to be greatly appreciated and enjoyed regardless of if its for your girlfriend of 6 months or your wife of 60 years.

Yeah, maybe it's appreciated. That's a little different that proof of "I love you."

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:24 pm 
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Marriage is not necessary for some people. Long term and even til death relationships can exist without the piece of paper from the government recognizing your union.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:28 pm 
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Hatchet, just show her this thread


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Marriage is not necessary for some people. Long term and even til death relationships can exist without the piece of paper from the government recognizing your union.

Ok.
But one has to understand that given the legal ramifications of marriage... it makes it a different animal from something you can just walk away from with no legal action?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Darkside wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Marriage is not necessary for some people. Long term and even til death relationships can exist without the piece of paper from the government recognizing your union.

Ok.
But one has to understand that given the legal ramifications of marriage... it makes it a different animal from something you can just walk away from with no legal action?

True. Just saying long term relationships are long term relationships


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:37 pm 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Marriage is not necessary for some people. Long term and even til death relationships can exist without the piece of paper from the government recognizing your union.

Ok.
But one has to understand that given the legal ramifications of marriage... it makes it a different animal from something you can just walk away from with no legal action?

True. Just saying long term relationships are long term relationships

Ok. That's fine. Then allow me to state that there are some certain individuals who have only a few months of relationship under their belts offering marital advice to people who have been in long term marriages/relationships?

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My parents have been married going on 57 years. They hate each other.

Cool.

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Darkside wrote:
Ok. That's fine. Then allow me to state that there are some certain individuals who have only a few months of relationship under their belts offering marital advice to people who have been in long term marriages/relationships?

Darkside, c'mon with the "certain individuals" thing. Be up front and give a name. You of all people shouldn't need to tiptoe around it like that. You obviously had somebody in mind when you made your initial attack post. And maybe you should've quoted those "certain individuals" specifically instead of globalizing the whole thing.

And if you're talking about me, let me remind you that I'm 31 and spent almost the entirety of my 20s in one relationship, so I think I have some perspective there.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:21 am 
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Darkside wrote:
Ok.
But one has to understand that given the legal ramifications of marriage... it makes it a different animal from something you can just walk away from with no legal action?
You can have legal ramifications without being married. Having joint accounts, joint credit cards, buying a house/car(s) together, CHILDREN, etc is all something that some nonmarried but 'in a relationship' couples do. You can't just walk away from that without legal stuff. I get that marriage is a different animal, but still my point stands.

From what I saw here most people took this thread title as 'how do you show your woman that you love her.' I think anybody that has been in a committed relationship can offer up something. We can ALL (even you, Darkside) learn from eachother. There are things posted here I'm sure you disagree with. Same with me. So just ignore them. But if a guy that has "only had a girlfriend for a few months" posts something here that I really like, or think that she will really like, or that I think could help me out, why at least think about giving it a shot? I'm certainly not gonna write it off just because s/he has only had a significant other for a few weeks/months.

I consider 'marital advice' to be talking about how to balance the checkbook, who does what around the house, how to pay for the mortgage/rent...bigger picture things. I agree with you in that that sort of advice is best served from somebody who is or has been married. But relationship advice can come from anybody as far as I'm concerned. Once again, just because somebody says something here doesn't mean that its a good idea and that you have to take it and run with it. However, I think to write that stuff off for the sole reason that they have only been in a relationship for a few months is pretty high horsey.

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Lastly, and most relevant, when the hell has "knowing what you're talking about" been a pre requisite for commenting on a subject on this board?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Hatchet, just show her this thread


You ain't kiddin. My wife has no idea how good she has it. :P

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Lastly, and most relevant, when the hell has "knowing what you're talking about" been a pre requisite for commenting on a subject on this board?

Hasn't stopped you.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Lastly, and most relevant, when the hell has "knowing what you're talking about" been a pre requisite for commenting on a subject on this board?
See, I take umbrage with this statement, and I don't even know what "umbrage" means, so, um, +1!

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Darko - I don't get where you're coming from here. Nobody is really disagreeing with you. Everyone agrees that a marriage is different from a relationship, and thus has different challenges, etc. But this clearly evolved into a general relationship thread very quickly. You never answered spmack's question of what single guys were giving marital advice here. I didn't see too much of that, if any. And the "girlfriend for a few months" shot is childish, especially since you have no idea what most people's past experiences may or may not include here.

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Throw me into the "Darkside being confrontational for no reason" group. Everybody was just giving advise from their prospective. No need to come in with the pompous attitute...

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I'd like to point out that I did not offer any advice in this thread...therefore helping to show that I don't always comment on things I know little about.

You know more than you're willing to let on, I'm sure.

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This may be a matter of taste, but having a joint bank account prior to getting married usually spells trouble.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
This may be a matter of taste, but having a joint bank account prior to getting married usually spells trouble.


Kind of an odd set up, but if two people can't handle that, not sure they can handle marriage.

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
This may be a matter of taste, but having a joint bank account prior to getting married usually spells trouble.
I believe that is true. The same goes with co-ownership of just about anything or living together.

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Threads like this are why I wish Ajent were still here.

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Threads like this are why I wish Ajent were still here.

No, I think he would have messed the thread up. This has been a very enjoyable thread, including Darkside.

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First off you need to find a girl that can handle money. She should be a little on the thrifty side. Then just hand over all financial matters to her. I never see an account balance, pay a bill, or anything.

Alternatively, if she's a spendthrift, you are going to have to take over the duties and handle it yourself.

You can't have two spendthrifts handling the money. That's what they call in economics, "the tragedy of the commons."

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This may be a matter of taste, but having a joint bank account prior to getting married usually spells trouble.
I believe that is true. The same goes with co-ownership of just about anything or living together.

Sarcasm I'm guessing?

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This may be a matter of taste, but having a joint bank account prior to getting married usually spells trouble.


Kind of an odd set up, but if two people can't handle that, not sure they can handle marriage.


I don't think that is entirely true. While I agree that a certain level of personal maturity (like hair on the balls) is needed prior to a marriage agreement, why not simply wait to combine accounts until afterwards?


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
why not simply wait to combine accounts until afterwards?


Yeah, I wouldn't, but assuming you did and failed, that would be a good clue that you shouldn't get married.

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