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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:13 am 
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:


So that one day a week was REALLY important to him. :lol:

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Yea I figured there was something way off with the dude.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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Although he could only practice 1 day a week, so I guess his work week started and ended on Monday :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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"I dunno Bill, this guy is a doctor and seems reputable. Sure, he had a little thing with trading drugs for sex in the past, but who doesn't have a few skeletons in his closet?"

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:38 am 
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Oh boy.....

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:46 am 
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Meh, doesn't really change the facts of the case.

I do know that Dr. Dao will never have to practice medicine again. He'll be set for life once United gives him his large settlement

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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It would be interesting to know the "random procedure" that United employed to choose him. Considering the relatively small number who are involuntarily bumped, I think there's a good chance they didn't use a random number generator (maybe they'll say they pulled numbers from a hat). Alternatively, if they went by cheapest fare paid, that could have been another factor in this guy's humiliation/embarrassment.

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denisdman wrote:

Meh, doesn't really change the facts of the case.

I do know that Dr. Dao will never have to practice medicine again. He'll be set for life once United gives him his large settlement


Might not change the facts but likely contributed to them.


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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
denisdman wrote:

Meh, doesn't really change the facts of the case.

I do know that Dr. Dao will never have to practice medicine again. He'll be set for life once United gives him his large settlement


Might not change the facts but likely contributed to them.
Victim blaming in defense of corporations!

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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wait, wait, there is something wrong with trading drugs for sex? Since when?


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Well Grandpa Dao is not as lovable as Grandpa Ross.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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#BREAKING United Airlines has troubled past, ties to 9/11 attacks

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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#BREAKING United Airlines has troubled past, ties to 9/11 attacks
:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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#BREAKING United Airlines has troubled past, ties to 9/11 attacks

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:


So that one day a week was REALLY important to him. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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#BREAKING United Airlines has troubled past, ties to 9/11 attacks


:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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If you don't want your face smashed into an arm rest for not giving up the seat for which you paid, you shouldn't have committed a crime twelve years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:48 am 
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Take this for what it is worth as it is an internet comment but United may have had no legal standing to do so.
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/04/your-rights-on-involuntary-bumps/
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Lawyer here. This myth that passengers don't have rights needs to go away, ASAP. You are dead wrong when saying that United legally kicked him off the plane.

1. First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSELLING", which is specifically defined as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to deny boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

2. Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

3. Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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If you don't want your face smashed into an arm rest for not giving up the seat for which you paid, you shouldn't have committed a crime twelve years ago.

This guy gets it.


And that 9/11 tweet ... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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My bigger concern is that these fake cops are desperately trying to become armed officers.

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My bigger concern is that these fake cops are desperately trying to become armed officers.


That one dude should invest in a belt for his jeans first.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
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denisdman wrote:

Meh, doesn't really change the facts of the case.

I do know that Dr. Dao will never have to practice medicine again. He'll be set for life once United gives him his large settlement


Might not change the facts but likely contributed to them.
Victim blaming in defense of corporations!


That is what it seems like to me. Hey, we fucked up, so lets see if we can dig up something about this guy to minimize the backlash. If he's a dirtbag, maybe he deserved to be treated like he was.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My bigger concern is that these fake cops are desperately trying to become armed officers.


That one dude should invest in a belt for his jeans first.


Stop your plumber butt shaming you insensitive old coot!

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If he's a dirtbag, maybe he deserved to be treated like he was.
You're a dirtbag. Lets hope something worse happens to you very soon.

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 Post subject: Re: United Airlines
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BR, that guy references the CFR on over sales. Here is the actual text of that rule from the FAA site.

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?S ... 0&rgn=div5

Lots of interesting. It's an easy read. There are actually rules in percentage terms as to how much compensation to pay and what priority may be given for involuntary bumping. And yes that lawyered response looks pretty valid. I wonder if there are other exceptions or interpretations for that specific situation beyond what is in this regulation?

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I love that United paid some PIs to dig up that the doctor loves sex, drugs, and gambling. As we would feel less sympathetic towards him. I like this dude even more now.


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I love that United paid some PIs to dig up that the doctor loves sex, drugs, and gambling. As we would feel less sympathetic towards him. I like this dude even more now.



I didn't post that stuff to say it justifies the overly aggressive cops. I postulated that the doctor might have a mental illness. Maybe it was drug use. I was trying to figure out why an old man wouldn't comply with airline staff and then not comply with law enforcement. He acted completely wacky after he was dragged out. Maybe that is the reason he acted wacky. But a guy not complying with authorities before he dragged out makes me think there is something wrong with the guy. But maybe he was just really pissed off and not thinking straight.

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I love that United paid some PIs to dig up that the doctor loves sex, drugs, and gambling. As we would feel less sympathetic towards him. I like this dude even more now.



Who doesn't pay for sex?!?


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I love that United paid some PIs to dig up that the doctor loves sex, drugs, and gambling. As we would feel less sympathetic towards him. I like this dude even more now.



Who doesn't pay for sex?!?

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I didn't post that stuff to say it justifies the overly aggressive cops. I postulated that the doctor might have a mental illness. Maybe it was drug use


he has a mental illness because he overprescibes drugs and likes sex ?


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