These are all active duty people. Do you not think that the environment created by the Marines is the problem here? Yet the crime is these guys sharing photos?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The environment that trains them to upload nude nude photos needs to change!

So because "MARINES" they are allowed to do anything they please? What sort of a bullshit argument are you trying to make.

"Sorry we killed 42 Iraqi civilians but I'm a Marine so ya know....they yelled at us at Parris Island."

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Didn't you also argue that this happened all over the place?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

This thread is absurd. There are 200,000 active Marines. Hundreds of thousands more retired. How many are involved in this thing? A few dozen, if that.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Exactly.

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Still no "titties" or links to "titties" in this thread. Complete waste of time.

That is the point. We are mad that them for sharing nude photos, but sending them off to kill people in whatever police action of the day we have declared is fine.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

It does. I am guessing at most fraternities.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I thought there were going to be Le Pen. I'm not going to live, I'd look.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement there.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

What if they shot some people. Would your post be, "We are mad at them for shooting three kids and three grandmothers, but sending them off to shoot people in whatever police action of the day we have declared is fine"?

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He already does that.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

So sharing photos, to you, is akin to shooting people?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Then answer the question you were asked a page ago by Peeps...what crime is OK for them? You seem to think the pic thing is OK. Where do you draw the line?

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Sharing photos should be worse for you, since you keep harping about their training is to kill people and not upload nudes. How can you blame them to do what they're trained to do?

Shooting somebody and sharing a nude photo of somebody without their consent are both felonies. I do not think they are equal, but that is not the point here.

Like Hank and TP have said, Ruffcorn, there is a very simple question that you are refusing to address. What crimes are OK for Marines and Ex-Marines to commit?

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Women! What can you say? Who made 'em? God must have been a fuckin' genius. The hair, they say the hair is everything, you know. Have you ever buried your nose in a mountain of curls, just wanted to go to sleep forever? Or lips, and when they touched yours were like... that first swallow of wine... after you just crossed the desert. Tits. Hoo-ah! Big ones, little ones, nipples staring right out at ya, like secret searchlights. Mmm. Legs. I don't care if they're Greek columns or secondhand Steinways. What's between 'em... passport to heaven. I need a drink. Yes, Mr. Peeps, there's only two syllables in this whole wide world worth hearing: pussy. Hah! Are you listenin' to me, son? I'm givin' ya pearls here.

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Don't shrug, genius. I'm blind.

I do not think that sharing nude photos should be a crime. If it's blackmail that's a crime, but merely sharing nude photos is nearly impossible to police. We are getting into crazy amounts of policing because people's feelings are hurt. It's not ideal, but then again this is not an ideal world. When a girl sexts someone I don't think it's up to the police what happens after that unless the photo was being used to blackmail or threaten the person in a malicious way.

My larger point is that we as a society have decided that it's perfectly acceptable to train these guys to be loyal to each other to a fault, value the brotherhood above all else, yet we need to act shocked and appalled when they appear to lack morality in other areas? To me it's blowback of sorts, and it more calls into question whether it beneficial to have so many trained killers under government employment. What's an acceptable level of crime from these people? That's a question that seems to depend on the level of need that we have for them. Ideally, of course the answer is none, but I do not think it's fair to ask them to go into these places and kill for us then point the finger and condemn them when they do not act according the standards we have put in place in modern corporate America.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

This isn't about what you think should or should not be a law. The fact is that sharing nude photos or videos of somebody without their consent IS a crime.


We are not holding Marines different to any different standard than we are every day American citizens.

It seems you are arguing the wrong point. Questioning the fairness of what they are told to do is a different discussion. These guys sign up for this and they know what will be expected of them for the most part. If you want to argue that there needs to be better care, training, and mental health services for combat veterans once they get back into the "real world", then I would agree.

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Seriously, are you making the argument that because of life experience and training we should hold people less accountable for their actions?

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Your feelings on the legality of sharing the pictures is irrelevant. These were their fellow soldier's pictures they uploaded. The larger point should be they failed the "Brotherhood" part, they failed to be loyal to each other.

This is why I'm a never nude..

Not a big fan of consent?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

There should be better care. But better still would be to not train them or put them in harms way in the first place. I do not get the moral outrage for nude photo sharing consider everything else that we ask the military to do that is deemed perfectly fine.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Do you have written contracts for every sext? Do we know if consent was given, then rescinded? It seems to be nearly impossible to police this especially when there are thousands of other crimes to police, but to you the world is black and white.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

If you are sharing nudes of someone else get it in writing.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Thanks, Obama.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

There is a reason it's called a brotherhood.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Corporal Barnes, where in the Marine Handbook does it say where the Mess Hall at Gitmo is?

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