she just spent 20 minutes setting us up with the questions she is going to prove. she wouldnt have done that setup without proof. this is huge... trump owes russian banks tens of millions of dollars, and also iranian terrorists.

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This... is nothing. It's two pages.

it was just the two pages of the 1040 form. no details about where the money came and went. and the guy who got the form is saying its very likely trump was actually the one who gave it to him.

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So now Maddow and the Left have the hilarious task of making Trump seem evil for paying $38 million in federal income tax.

Also, good on the White House for including that line about owing a duty to pay no more tax than is legally required. Should have done that from the very beginning.

I don't even think this is news. I'm almost positive I read awhile back that someone had a couple pages of his '05 return.

He should obviously release his taxes, but if I had to guess I'd say that the reason he isn't doing so isn't anything nefarious but most likely because he is nowhere near as rich as he likes to claim he is.

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Chump change, I thought it was proven that Trump owes the Bank of China like 350 million during the primaries.

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i just feel like if trump did have large ties with the russian banks, wouldnt it be legally required for the IRS to notify the department of justice?

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Oh. So he paid less than 3% tax. I get it now.

I think we all knew this already.

Trump already said " that makes me smart" for skirting the horseshit tax code during the debates.

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no he paid 26%

he wants to eliminate the alternative minimum tax, which would mean he would pay 3%

i think anyway. im drunk

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I know I read about these two pages of that old return awhile ago. Maybe it wasn't confirmed that it was legitimate until just now.

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12 year old tax returns?

Starting them early.

No I think the George Lucas guy just said he paid the equivalent to less than what a family who makes $30,000/year would pay or something

But were there any emails?

you didnt listen right. if the alternative tax was eliminated, he would have paid ~$5mil in 2005, which would have been 3%, or less than what a family at $30k a year makes.

the alternative minimum tax is an additional tax to the base tax...

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He's no different than most millionaires. Dumber, perhaps. We could eliminate these crazy tax stories with more progressive taxes and social programs that eliminate barriers to health care and education, but that's just "free stuff for all!!!", according to some.

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If Maddow tries to aggressively straighten those tax returns in her hands any harder she might get named vice president.

So we now have MANY on this board misusing the "MANY" meme, and some others who don't use it, even in the proper contexts. Sad!

There really is nothing new here, as evidenced by the White House response.

But for some who choose not to be apologists, enablers or hypocrites, there are still staggeringly simple questions to be answered about his sources of income.

The fingers pointing at his possible connections with Iranian Republican Guard bucks is pretty remarkable (and fairly obvious)

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I still say that the Republican leadership is far worse than he is with their enabling him in all of this crap. And their MANY supporters

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If you're looking for potential conflicts I think you have to start with Deutsche Bank.

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In her defense, Maddow probably doesn't know what blue balls are.

We are.

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You could start in a dozen or two areas with very real smoke, but this is pretty surprising even to someone as inclined to believe republican leadership and Trump is as immoral and sleazy as they are showing themselves to be

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I agree with some of you.

This is nothing. It was probably leaked by Trump anyway.

He made 150 million and paid 38 million in taxes in 2005. So what? What did we learn here? Nothing.

Why they're going nuts on MSNBC is beyond me.

Geraldo/Capone vault vibe.

This is clearly a Trump dump.

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GO BEARS!!!

When someone says Trump owes China or Russia millions, it's intended to sound sinister but is likely just loans against his hotels.

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if he released his taxes, would you even trust anyone in the mainsteam media to accurate summarize their contents? Or would they just cherry pick items to fit their desired narratives (even fox could try to spin positive items more than they are actually worth)?