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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:18 pm 
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In January, I stepped off a bus and into the Westminster underground station across the street from where the SUV came to a stop. I'm going to be back in London in April, and I'm sure my family is not going to be happy about it. But I figure I'm in NYC and DC probably 6x/year each, downtown LA 4x/year, and work in downtown Chicago. There are plenty of other places to try and run me over.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen

I think it was erroneously reported that it was him as more reputable sources are saying Izzadeen is in prison right now.


Yeah, but what about his brother, Daffideen?


Or their sister:

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I am always inspired by the dedication some still illogically display against common sense in defense of the hypocritical planks of their republican comrade overlords

It's fine to own a gun, ya commie bastard.

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This is what IS's goal is. Coordinated attacks are very difficult to pull off so you use social media and Internet to radicalize and recruit lone wolfs to pull off an attack that 90% of the population has the tools to perform.

You cannot win against that tactic unless you destroy the ideology behind it. There is certainly no military solution for it.


Incorrect look up Thuggee and what the Brits did to them.

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I am always inspired by the dedication some still illogically display against common sense in defense of the hypocritical planks of their republican comrade overlords

It's fine to own a gun, ya commie bastard.


I've owned all types and carried one for awhile. Even have hunted a few times. Thinking about getting a simple 38 for home right now since I can't currently defend myself for shit.

But I have no use for the ease with which SOME buy/hoard/resell guns and ammo. Or the real world easy access brings. $10 a bullet tax would not bother me.

But the commie bastard remark grows less and less far off :P

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Regular Reader wrote:
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I am always inspired by the dedication some still illogically display against common sense in defense of the hypocritical planks of their republican comrade overlords

It's fine to own a gun, ya commie bastard.


I've owned all types and carried one for awhile. Even have hunted a few times. Thinking about getting a simple 38 for home right now since I can't currently defend myself for shit.

But I have no use for the ease with which SOME buy/hoard/resell guns and ammo. Or the real world easy access brings. $10 a bullet tax would not bother me.

But the commie bastard remark grows less and less far off :P

You don’t need no gun control, you know what you need? We need some bullet control. Men, we need to control the bullets, that’s right. I think all bullets should cost five thousand dollars… five thousand dollars per bullet… You know why? Cause if a bullet cost five thousand dollars there would be no more innocent bystanders.

Yeah! Every time somebody get shot we’d say, ‘Damn, he must have done something ... Shit, he’s got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass.’

And people would think before they killed somebody if a bullet cost five thousand dollars. ‘Man I would blow your fucking head off…if I could afford it.’ ‘I’m gonna get me another job, I’m going to start saving some money, and you’re a dead man. You’d better hope I can’t get no bullets on layaway.’

So even if you get shot by a stray bullet, you wouldn't have to go to no doctor to get it taken out. Whoever shot you would take their bullet back, like "I believe you got my property.

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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.

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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
In January, I stepped off a bus and into the Westminster underground station across the street from where the SUV came to a stop. I'm going to be back in London in April, and I'm sure my family is not going to be happy about it. But I figure I'm in NYC and DC probably 6x/year each, downtown LA 4x/year, and work in downtown Chicago. There are plenty of other places to try and run me over.



My wife is over there right now. She called me this morning to let me know she was okay. I had no idea what had happened.

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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

:lol:

That's not what he asked.

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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.

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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.


Especially by the formerly tough, the mentally deficient and the slacks challenged

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Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.


Especially by the formerly tough, the mentally deficient and the slacks challenged

What does it matter what kind of pants they wear?

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Glad to see we're getting down to business ironing out how to stop gun violence and not addressing the 6th century backwards cult that drives trucks into people.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.


Especially by the formerly tough, the mentally deficient and the slacks challenged

Dude, thanks!

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I would presume that you've never clipped a guy, so it didn't apply to you Sandy :twisted:

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.

Not really. Something like 70% of the casualties from Pickett's charge were from Union artillery, and that shit has gotten about a million times deadlier/more accurate since the ACW. Not to mention airplanes and missiles being introduced with pretty devastating effect.

There really is no way to prove this, but I'm fairly certain indirect fire has contributed to more people meeting a violent end than small arms since about the time of the Napoleonic wars.


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America wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How many gun collectors are involved in murders? I dunno, just curious.



Most murderers have collected at least one gun.

Glad that's the only way to kill someone.


Just the most popular.

Not really. Something like 70% of the casualties from Pickett's charge were from Union artillery, and that shit has gotten about a million times deadlier/more accurate since the ACW. Not to mention airplanes and missiles being introduced with pretty devastating effect.

There really is no way to prove this, but I'm fairly certain indirect fire has contributed to more people meeting a violent end than small arms since about the time of the Napoleonic wars.


I also do not have the stats but I am going to say indirect fire has a higher completion percentage.

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Also, its important to note that firearms are not necessarily an efficient way of killing people. Baseline odds of surviving a gunshot with first world trauma care are about 90%.


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Also, its important to note that firearms are not necessarily an efficient way of killing people. Baseline odds of surviving a gunshot with first world trauma care are about 90%.


If facing a bunker full of heavily armed enemies I would have much rather successfully lobbed a grenade or used a 203 to eliminate them than try to pick them off one by one.

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We're talking about murder.

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I tried to warn you about truck drivers.

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Also, its important to note that firearms are not necessarily an efficient way of killing people. Baseline odds of surviving a gunshot with first world trauma care are about 90%.

:lol:

This is a terrible post. The first sentence is unequivocally wrong and the second sentence is HIGHLY variable on where you got shot. Talk about banning guns annoys me too but you can do better for our side of the argument.

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Also, its important to note that firearms are not necessarily an efficient way of killing people. Baseline odds of surviving a gunshot with first world trauma care are about 90%.

:lol:

This is a terrible post. The first sentence is unequivocally wrong and the second sentence is HIGHLY variable on where you got shot. Talk about banning guns annoys me too but you can do better for our side of the argument.

Or what you're getting shot with. But facts are facts, at least 80% of people who are admitted into ER's with gunshot wounds survive. If you make it to the hospital and you haven't been hit in the leg, heart, neck or head you've pretty much made it. Even if you are hit in those places your odds aren't as bad as you think.


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America wrote:
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Also, its important to note that firearms are not necessarily an efficient way of killing people. Baseline odds of surviving a gunshot with first world trauma care are about 90%.

:lol:

This is a terrible post. The first sentence is unequivocally wrong and the second sentence is HIGHLY variable on where you got shot. Talk about banning guns annoys me too but you can do better for our side of the argument.

Or what you're getting shot with. But facts are facts, at least 80% of people who are admitted into ER's with gunshot wounds survive. If you make it to the hospital and you haven't been hit in the leg, heart, neck or head you've pretty much made it. Even if you are hit in those places your odds aren't as bad as you think.

He's right.

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If someone I know gets shot I'm going to tell them to stop whining it is no big deal.

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