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I'm fine with minimal licensing requirements just to ensure the airwaves are functional, but all other aspects of the FCC need to be vacated to the market.


Handing the radio business to "the market" is what fucked it over, or were you the guy who said eight-station clusters are a good thing?

The customer reviews said it's a good thing. Case closed.


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1) Corporations get permission to buy up absurd numbers of radio stations
2) Corporations buy up absurd numbers of radio stations
3) Corporations rack up absurd debt
4) Spots Ahoy!
5) Radio is dying, must be government intervention!

and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

Broadcast is alive, well, and providing more content than ever before if you include over the web options. If you ignore those, then it's only your loss.

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See JLN we CAN actually agree on some things :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Any one of these will provide better content that is largely ad free than what is going to be found on radio.

https://www.podcastchart.com/categories ... 0-podcasts

Thank the free market for these.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

But we're talking about the public airwaves. You're saying "The government should further deregulate the airwaves, deregulation to this point has made the airwaves worse, but fuck it, podcasts exist!" That's ridiculous.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

But we're talking about the public airwaves. You're saying "The government should further deregulate the airwaves, deregulation to this point has made the airwaves worse, but fuck it, podcasts exist!" That's ridiculous.

It really isn't since podcasts are filling the same need radio fills. It is to provide audio entertainment, especially when partaking in an activity like driving or work where visual media will not do.

As I've said, i work from home and can listen to music or other audio throughout the day. I have the option of radio via online or local broadcast, but I've turned almost exclusively to podcasts (with some small samplings of 1000). It's a better product than any OTA radio ever was. Heck, if you really want to listen to *barf* 670 *barf* you can do so via online just after the show ends and have no commercials.

All of these options are superior to FCC regulated airwaves.

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Why do you like that corporations are able to buy stations in bulk? Because technically they can't; Clear Channel gobbled up every station they could for the sake of doing it and now they're being crushed by debt.

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Why do you like that corporations are able to buy stations in bulk? Because technically they can't; Clear Channel gobbled up every station they could for the sake of doing it and now they're being crushed by debt.

Why should I care what Cumulus or Clear Channel does when I literally have thousands of other options at my fingertips? If they want to push a broken model, fine, the market will punish them in the long run as they lose to superior products

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

But we're talking about the public airwaves. You're saying "The government should further deregulate the airwaves, deregulation to this point has made the airwaves worse, but fuck it, podcasts exist!" That's ridiculous.

It really isn't since podcasts are filling the same need radio fills. It is to provide audio entertainment, especially when partaking in an activity like driving or work where visual media will not do.

As I've said, i work from home and can listen to music or other audio throughout the day. I have the option of radio via online or local broadcast, but I've turned almost exclusively to podcasts (with some small samplings of 1000). It's a better product than any OTA radio ever was. Heck, if you really want to listen to *barf* 670 *barf* you can do so via online just after the show ends and have no commercials.

All of these options are superior to FCC regulated airwaves.

Uh, the internet is regulated by the FCC. And if they remove net neutrality and allow ISPs to play favorites and throttle customers your precious streaming my be affected.

So yea...


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Uh, the internet is regulated by the FCC. And if they remove net neutrality and allow ISPs to play favorites and throttle customers your precious streaming my be affected.

So yea...


Amazing how MANY curiously ignore that tidbit.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

But we're talking about the public airwaves. You're saying "The government should further deregulate the airwaves, deregulation to this point has made the airwaves worse, but fuck it, podcasts exist!" That's ridiculous.

It really isn't since podcasts are filling the same need radio fills. It is to provide audio entertainment, especially when partaking in an activity like driving or work where visual media will not do.

As I've said, i work from home and can listen to music or other audio throughout the day. I have the option of radio via online or local broadcast, but I've turned almost exclusively to podcasts (with some small samplings of 1000). It's a better product than any OTA radio ever was. Heck, if you really want to listen to *barf* 670 *barf* you can do so via online just after the show ends and have no commercials.

All of these options are superior to FCC regulated airwaves.

Uh, the internet is regulated by the FCC. And if they remove net neutrality your precious streaming my be affected.

So yea...

Most of those podcasts are streamed through iTunes. Pretty sure no ISP wants to run afoul of Apple.

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Also should note VPN's provide a work around if net neutrality is revoked. You get a free VPN built into the Opera browser (which I use)

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Also should note VPN's provide a work around if net neutrality is revoked. You get a free VPN built into the Opera browser (which I use)


Yeah, a shit open VPN connection. Which isn't secure, and doesn't provide nearly half the speed of PTTP. Woopty-doo.

VPN's are not 'The Market's' answer to net neutrality dying and tolls exacted by ISP's for streaming data.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
and if you're limiting yourself to just radio and not a 21st century option, then shame on you.

But we're talking about the public airwaves. You're saying "The government should further deregulate the airwaves, deregulation to this point has made the airwaves worse, but fuck it, podcasts exist!" That's ridiculous.

It really isn't since podcasts are filling the same need radio fills. It is to provide audio entertainment, especially when partaking in an activity like driving or work where visual media will not do.

As I've said, i work from home and can listen to music or other audio throughout the day. I have the option of radio via online or local broadcast, but I've turned almost exclusively to podcasts (with some small samplings of 1000). It's a better product than any OTA radio ever was. Heck, if you really want to listen to *barf* 670 *barf* you can do so via online just after the show ends and have no commercials.

All of these options are superior to FCC regulated airwaves.

Uh, the internet is regulated by the FCC. And if they remove net neutrality your precious streaming my be affected.

So yea...

Most of those podcasts are streamed through iTunes. Pretty sure no ISP wants to run afoul of Apple.


That's what people said about Netflix, and Comcast broke them over their knee to get priority resource allocation at network backbones.


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In all honesty, I'm not opposed to net neutrality due to the fact the ISP's represent a natural monopoly. If we do get to the point where other parties can easily enter the ISP market, I then would move in favor of removing net neutrality.

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See JLN we CAN actually agree on some things :lol: :lol: :lol:


Imagine, a thing like that.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
In all honesty, I'm not opposed to net neutrality due to the fact the ISP's represent a natural monopoly. If we do get to the point where other parties can easily enter the ISP market, I then would move in favor of removing net neutrality.
That's a terrible opinion.

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See JLN we CAN actually agree on some things :lol: :lol: :lol:


Imagine, a thing like that.

Make it the three of us then.

World ending soon methinks.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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In all honesty, I'm not opposed to net neutrality due to the fact the ISP's represent a natural monopoly. If we do get to the point where other parties can easily enter the ISP market, I then would move in favor of removing net neutrality.
That's a terrible opinion.

Why? I'm in favor of the current rules as the ISP market isn't open to competition at the moment. I'd change my tune if technology advanced to the point where it could be a competitive market.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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In all honesty, I'm not opposed to net neutrality due to the fact the ISP's represent a natural monopoly. If we do get to the point where other parties can easily enter the ISP market, I then would move in favor of removing net neutrality.
That's a terrible opinion.

Why? I'm in favor of the current rules as the ISP market isn't open to competition at the moment. I'd change my tune if technology advanced to the point where it could be a competitive market.
The internet is designed to be neutral. That's the whole point of it. It is not a point of negotiation where corporations that provide it with the help of billions of dollars of government aid should be allowed to modify it for profit.

Now, maybe if there was a government run high quality internet to everyone then maybe we could consider it but I'm pretty sure you would be against that.

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What would the free market bring?

The free market has spoken and the market wants more of this (as he is the first CBS host to ever beat NBC's Tonight Show). If he was losing and did this, he would probably get reprimanded, but winning your time slot gives you more room to do this and I'd bet his ratings are up further after this.

That's why he is still on the air. I don't care for Colbert (or any of the late night shows other than Nightline), but more power to him if he's finding success.
Not that it matters in the broader context of this discussion, but IIRC Letterman beat Leno for a couple of years early on.

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It was in another thread but ...
Why is Colbert still on the air? If someone said what he did about one of the Dems,they would at least be getting a couple days unpaid vacation time. He did it to the president. I mean President Trump may be an idiot and a moron at the least but come on, are there not supposed to be standards on broadcast television? Charles Rocket got canned for dropping the F bomb on a Sat night at 1am. You see people getting suspensions all the time for far less than this.


I can't be the only one who finds it hilarious that this guy, who said so much vile shit about President Obama, is now playing the "respect the office" card. Priceless. I'm shocked it took until May.

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It is weird. Obama said he was thinking about sucking that professor's dick so he should be the cock holster.
Duck of Death is known pussy hound who bangs the beauties.
Go figure, eh? It's like Coleburt isn't really funny. And never has been. Or is a has been. Or something.


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It was in another thread but ...
Why is Colbert still on the air? If someone said what he did about one of the Dems,they would at least be getting a couple days unpaid vacation time. He did it to the president. I mean President Trump may be an idiot and a moron at the least but come on, are there not supposed to be standards on broadcast television? Charles Rocket got canned for dropping the F bomb on a Sat night at 1am. You see people getting suspensions all the time for far less than this.


I can't be the only one who finds it hilarious that this guy, who said so much vile shit about President Obama, is now playing the "respect the office" card. Priceless. I'm shocked it took until May.

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chas didn't have a problem with limbaugh routinely calling obama a "halfrican american"? among other things? inconceivable!


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It was in another thread but ...
Why is Colbert still on the air? If someone said what he did about one of the Dems,they would at least be getting a couple days unpaid vacation time. He did it to the president. I mean President Trump may be an idiot and a moron at the least but come on, are there not supposed to be standards on broadcast television? Charles Rocket got canned for dropping the F bomb on a Sat night at 1am. You see people getting suspensions all the time for far less than this.


If Amerika can elect a guy that said grab them by the pussy ...and you get your undies in a bunch about Colbert

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The Kenyan is really losing his marbles. Told the adoring folks that eating more meat is causing climate change. Lotta funny jokes to be had there.

"eat a smaller steak"--halfrican surfer dude
"eat more dick"--frank

#hilarious

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money quote-- More advanced countries, Obama said, would have to teach people to “have a smaller steak” and explore reductions to their meat consumption.

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